skyth
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Post by skyth on Aug 28, 2023 13:52:53 GMT -5
Plus polling isn't very accurate, as it relies on who answers their phone from a random number they don't know - and the young people (Who are very much anti-Republican) tend to not answer their phone in that sort of situation...
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Post by easye on Aug 28, 2023 15:02:25 GMT -5
Yeah, and many folks will just flat-out lie to pollsters now-a-days.
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Post by easye on Aug 29, 2023 16:43:20 GMT -5
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Post by easye on Sept 7, 2023 10:12:34 GMT -5
Wow, the media is really trying to make 2024 a typical "Horse-race" election between Biden and Trump. Looks like they learned nothing from 2016. Well, they learned that Trump makes them money. They are almost worse than the Republican party itself. They just can't quit him! Edit: I guess what is good for the Russians is good for the Chinese! Suspected Chinese operatives using AI generated images to spread disinformation among US voters, Microsoft sayswww.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/chinese-operatives-ai-images-social-media/index.html
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Sept 7, 2023 10:51:36 GMT -5
The report itself is relatively light on info, the ratio of left-right wing posts would be interesting.
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Post by easye on Sept 14, 2023 9:53:53 GMT -5
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Sept 14, 2023 10:17:54 GMT -5
Optimistic and envision being more succesful? Must be some strong copium, because most statistical data firmly points the other way.
Is it just general overconfidence or willful ignorance? Looking at some of these better/worse off bars is bewildering.
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Post by Haighus on Sept 14, 2023 10:52:03 GMT -5
Optimistic and envision being more succesful? Must be some strong copium, because most statistical data firmly points the other way. Is it just general overconfidence or willful ignorance? Looking at some of these better/worse off bars is bewildering. Something something American Dream I guess?
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herzlos
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Post by herzlos on Sept 15, 2023 2:17:52 GMT -5
Expecting to do better whilst expecting the government/system to shaft them is weird, but it's maybe down to the question.
Many may expect to have a better work life balance, be happier with life, less likely to be stuck in a job or marriage they hate, etc. but not necessarily more successful on paper.
I'm not surprised they view politics as so bad, it's totally toxic and I'm convinced you need to be a proper bastard to even consider getting involved.
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mdgv2
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Post by mdgv2 on Sept 15, 2023 2:32:04 GMT -5
I suspect it’s to do with the block power voting of the post-war generation. Note I’ve used the correct term, for a good reason.
Essentially it’s the same problem we have in the UK.
That generation did pretty well for itself. And being a big chunk of the population, wields significant political clout in the polls. Importantly, when they vote, they collectively tend to get what they want.
However, “what they want” has typically come out of the pocket and prospects of their children (lower wages, higher cost of living, stupid property prices). And there’s media outlets absolutely dedicated to painting the younger generations as just being entitled, and certainly not facing hurdles the Post War didn’t, but hurdles placed by the Post War generation.
And so, Gen X and Millennials feel inherently disenfranchised. We’ve lived our lives seeing politicians and policiies detrimental to our future and financial stability time and time and time again.
And it…..sucks. In the UK? Brexit is the main one, having been driven through by Boomers, and the cunts Boomers vote for. We’ve seen housing destroyed, public services shattered, pensions fucked, wages suppressed, University costs .go from £0 to £9,250 per year in just 20 years, because Boomers want to have their cake and eat it.
Hell, I’ll be lucky to be able to retire before I’m 70. The only way past that really is to get clever with inheritance. Ideally buy somewhere nice lock stock and barrel that doesn’t need much if any doing up, and pile the rest not into a nice holiday, but my private pension. Then, and only then, I might be able to retire early.
It’s really hard to watch the same idiot politicians voted in, time and time again.
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Post by easye on Sept 15, 2023 9:27:57 GMT -5
Gen X?
No one will care what they think, there is not enough of them. Their voices has consistently been drowned out by Boomers, and will now be obscured by Millenials. No politician or corporation will give two-hoots about what Gen Xer's think. Even institutions that are eventually led by Gen Xers.
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skyth
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Post by skyth on Sept 16, 2023 9:01:47 GMT -5
As a gen X, I'm used to that. We're the ones that grew up as latchkey kids.
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Post by adurot on Sept 16, 2023 9:39:39 GMT -5
Does Gen X vs Millennial matter that much? I’d imagine it breaks down more towards Boomer vs Post-Boomer, with the gap widening the more Post you get granted.
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skyth
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Post by skyth on Sept 16, 2023 10:08:50 GMT -5
I have a lot more in common with Millenials, though don't struggle as bad. When I first went to college, it only cost like $60/semester at the local community college. Wish I had known then what I know now...Would have saved me several thousand dollars
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Sept 16, 2023 11:08:49 GMT -5
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