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Post by Disciple of Fate on Mar 14, 2024 13:08:11 GMT -5
It was salient to the conversation, and specifically the claim that Native Americans have many tales of Bigfoot type creatures. Video proves…they in fact, don’t. Saying “I don’t want to invest an hour” is one thing. But Kan said words to the effect of “a skeptic? Eurgh I’m not watching that” I think this is the crux of it. If you go over the topic, said such and so, here is a longer video going into said points, there is nothing wrong with that. A better response would have been to ask you to give a tl;dr version or point to the relevant bits.
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Mar 14, 2024 13:09:37 GMT -5
On closer look, the video you linked is by Trey the Explainer, so I will watch it while I am doing chores.
My personal interest, which I’ll get into in that thread rather than this one, is how widespread encounters with furry hominids are, how similar some small details of them are, and how that makes it seem both more plausible and less likely that we wouldn’t have any remains at all.
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Post by mdgv2 on Mar 14, 2024 13:10:46 GMT -5
It was salient to the conversation, and specifically the claim that Native Americans have many tales of Bigfoot type creatures. Video proves…they in fact, don’t. Saying “I don’t want to invest an hour” is one thing. But Kan said words to the effect of “a skeptic? Eurgh I’m not watching that” I think this is the crux of it. If you go over the topic, said such and so, here is a longer video going into said points, there is nothing wrong with that. A better response would have been to ask you to give a tl;dr version or point to the relevant bits. A fair point definitely fault by myself and Kan there.
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Mar 14, 2024 13:35:14 GMT -5
Also, I read 20-something pages of that faerie-UFO essay you posted. It became less compelling the further I read. The author kept writing bizarre things, like faeries and aliens are both transitions between matter and energy. He seemed to be cherry-picking At best, and frankly, it was weird you posted that essay and followed it with a video chastising cryptozoologists for misrepresenting things.
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Post by mdgv2 on Mar 14, 2024 13:47:22 GMT -5
That was shared as a source of an interesting concept I read about in Fortean Times.
I need to work on that, set out “shared a source of potential interest, not as evidence”
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Mar 14, 2024 14:02:16 GMT -5
Fair enough. I agree that the similarities are interesting. I had problems with that particular guy’s presentation of them.
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Post by mdgv2 on Mar 14, 2024 14:44:51 GMT -5
I’d be worse for my criticism of others if I didn’t accept it from others
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Mar 17, 2024 12:57:47 GMT -5
In the Bigfoot thread, I wrote a long, blunt response to one of that guy’s posts only to find in the meantime he posted a couple times about how he felt dogpiled. Now I feel kind of bad. Hopefully he’ll understand the criticism isn’t of him but of his communication style.
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Post by A Town Called Malus on Mar 17, 2024 13:13:39 GMT -5
Don't feel bad. He brought it on himself.
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Post by mdgv2 on Mar 17, 2024 15:32:52 GMT -5
He’s definitely an odd fish. Constantly dancing around his points, all the more so when people ask him to clarify.
But that’s the thread locked at his request.
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Mar 17, 2024 15:51:26 GMT -5
It’s a shame, because the thread seemed to be doing well when he wasn’t derailing it. I doubt any thread would survive a poster determined to type tens of thousands of words about how everyone else in the conversation is wrong and ignorant for reasons too delicious to divulge. Maybe music criticism.
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Post by mdgv2 on Mar 17, 2024 16:26:32 GMT -5
Sadly there’s been a few attempts at discussing Cryptids on Dakka, and they all end up locked.
That’s a shame, because rational discourse about a fairly irrational subject is really enjoyable, provided everyone is coming to the table with an open mind. For instance, explaining the scientific method, and how if certain Cryptids did exist, there’s nothing in the fossil record to suggest they’re out there. Bigfoot being bipedal is a big deal, because now, us smelly hoomans are the sole extant bidpedal Great Ape. And we know beyond shadow of a doubt the skeletal traits necessary for that, such as a locking kneecap, shape of the pelvic girdle, the shape of foot bones etc.
And more or less agreeing what we’d consider convincing evidence is always healthy. As are delving into “but the native peoples have many legends all about Bigfoot” type stuff, which is often easily disproven.
Plus they’re probably the only thing close to conspiracy theory all can enter into open debate about, with relatively minor risk of a frothing nutter going mental. Like that end times Christian chucklefuck.
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Mar 17, 2024 16:54:08 GMT -5
I was getting his vibes and the guy who claimed no one could visit Antarctica’s vibes from the thread. One clear, concise statement could have changed the whole thread’s trajectory.
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Post by mdgv2 on Mar 17, 2024 18:59:02 GMT -5
I think the rot set in when I called him for using the non-term “scientism”. Don’t think he was serving up Word Salad before then.
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Post by crispy78 on Mar 18, 2024 3:12:46 GMT -5
Still have no idea what the fuck he was on about!
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