dusa
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Post by dusa on Jul 17, 2019 17:53:59 GMT -5
Rand Paul:
“Giant tax cut for big business and rich people which increases the deficit? Sign me the fuck up!”
“Funding for 9/11 responders? Hold up bud, what about the deficit?!?!”
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Jul 17, 2019 18:09:09 GMT -5
just gonna link the post, Carlo tried to be a tough man giving out GPS coords, and it gradually shifted from "lets have a fight" to "I'm gonna put a bullet in you." Just to clarify Wolfblade's lies here, Lonestarr777 twice stated he was going to shoot me before I stated that I'd perform self defense. Did he? Mind quoting it? This was what I found because I wasn't interested in reading walls of text. Also, I see you avoiding finding some info about them concentration camps and court hearings. Guess liberties and rights only matter for the right people huh?
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Post by lonestarr777 on Jul 17, 2019 20:01:37 GMT -5
Just to clarify Wolfblade's lies here, Lonestarr777 twice stated he was going to shoot me before I stated that I'd perform self defense. Did he? Mind quoting it? This was what I found because I wasn't interested in reading walls of text. Also, I see you avoiding finding some info about them concentration camps and court hearings. Guess liberties and rights only matter for the right people huh? And he can't, because I didn't. I did point out what he overshared was stupid on the off chance someone legit wanted to hurt him and that if he bothered to backtrack my ISP and get my address he'd probably get shot by the cops if he showed up on my doorstep, but I never said I would shoot him. Meanwhile he posted his location outside of his rent-a-pig employment office probably so he'd have back up if things turned south on him, and because he'd be strapped at the time.
You aren't going to get jack shit out of him man. He'll dance around that till hell freezes over.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Jul 17, 2019 21:01:41 GMT -5
Did he? Mind quoting it? This was what I found because I wasn't interested in reading walls of text. Also, I see you avoiding finding some info about them concentration camps and court hearings. Guess liberties and rights only matter for the right people huh? And he can't, because I didn't. I did point out what he overshared was stupid on the off chance someone legit wanted to hurt him and that if he bothered to backtrack my ISP and get my address he'd probably get shot by the cops if he showed up on my doorstep, but I never said I would shoot him. Meanwhile he posted his location outside of his rent-a-pig employment office probably so he'd have back up if things turned south on him, and because he'd be strapped at the time.
You aren't going to get jack shit out of him man. He'll dance around that till hell freezes over.
Most likely, but it's only fair to at least give him a chance so he on the chance he doesn't, he looks all the worse.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Jul 17, 2019 23:12:26 GMT -5
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Jul 18, 2019 12:11:08 GMT -5
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carlo87
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Post by carlo87 on Jul 18, 2019 12:39:58 GMT -5
And he can't, because I didn't. I did point out what he overshared was stupid on the off chance someone legit wanted to hurt him and that if he bothered to backtrack my ISP and get my address he'd probably get shot by the cops if he showed up on my doorstep, but I never said I would shoot him. Meanwhile he posted his location outside of his rent-a-pig employment office probably so he'd have back up if things turned south on him, and because he'd be strapped at the time.
You aren't going to get jack shit out of him man. He'll dance around that till hell freezes over.
Most likely, but it's only fair to at least give him a chance so he on the chance he doesn't, he looks all the worse. I blocked Lonestarr777, so this is the only way I saw his response.
Are we going to pretend that his "warning" wasn't a loosely veiled threat? We've had pages of arguments in this thread with a "technically it's not, but we all know what was meant" topic.
Also....for some reason he thinks I'm a security guard or something? Odd assumption.
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carlo87
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Post by carlo87 on Jul 18, 2019 12:41:58 GMT -5
People in those concentration camps, like Japanese Americans during WW2, are denied guns. They'd be denied guns even if they weren't in detainment centers.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Jul 18, 2019 13:15:06 GMT -5
People in those concentration camps, like Japanese Americans during WW2, are denied guns. They'd be denied guns even if they weren't in detainment centers. So... guys with guns aren't doing jackshit? What a shock. Also, not gonna find where lonestarr threatened you? Well, I guess it stands uncontested then.
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CommieCanUCK
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Post by CommieCanUCK on Jul 18, 2019 13:23:51 GMT -5
People in those concentration camps, like Japanese Americans during WW2, are denied guns. They'd be denied guns even if they weren't in detainment centers. Because they aren't citizens? What about all those pesky brown citizens that were rounded up? Should they have been allowed to exercise their 2A rights to defend themselves?
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carlo87
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Post by carlo87 on Jul 18, 2019 13:39:04 GMT -5
They'd be denied guns even if they weren't in detainment centers. Because they aren't citizens? What about all those pesky brown citizens that were rounded up? Should they have been allowed to exercise their 2A rights to defend themselves? Legally speaking you can use appropriate force to resist an illegal arrest. The catch is that it must be an illegal arrest, not a wrongful arrest. Wrongful arrests happen relatively frequently, whether for immigration reasons or other infractions, and it sucks. It's one of many reasons I support increasing funding at the border for more judges, and more hearings. The more of them we have the faster we can process people through the system and the less congested the detention centers will be.
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CommieCanUCK
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Post by CommieCanUCK on Jul 18, 2019 13:45:01 GMT -5
ICE has no authority over American citizens. What's the difference between an illegal arrest and a wrongful arrest?
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carlo87
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Post by carlo87 on Jul 18, 2019 14:04:58 GMT -5
ICE has no authority over American citizens. What's the difference between an illegal arrest and a wrongful arrest? A wrongful arrest is when an officer reasonably believes they have a legal reason to take someone into custody, but are in error because they misinterpreted the law or the facts of the moment. For example, if your twin brother commits a crime and you get arrested because you match a photograph, it's not an illegal arrest just wrongful.
Illegal arrest is when an officer blatantly ignores the law to arrest you.
Border enforcement can legally detain people that they reasonably believe are illegal immigrants, even if they are legal, if they are within 100 miles of the border of the US. This isn't just at the southern border. I believe they used this to gain extra authority during a raid on a packing plant near the Canadian border a number of years ago.
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carlo87
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Post by carlo87 on Jul 18, 2019 14:18:56 GMT -5
Also, not gonna find where lonestarr threatened you? Well, I guess it stands uncontested then. Woah woah woah, that's not how this works. You made a claim that I said I was going to outright shoot lonestarr777. Instead of backing that up, you sidestepped it with by saying "well, I'm not going to read a wall of text." Yes, we know that, but that's not telling us if he threatened me or not. Stay focused on the initial thing here, and don't try deflecting. TL;DR: You made a claim first, back it up.
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Post by semipotentwalrus on Jul 18, 2019 14:37:13 GMT -5
Or we drop it because both you and lonestarr777 were being raging assholes during the part we're discussing and this won't lead anywhere anyway.
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