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Post by whemblycthulhu on Aug 23, 2019 18:43:44 GMT -5
Not going to defend McCain. However, those were highly classified information that maliciously he leaked. As far as I'm concerned he's a traitor. Hi. Okay. 100% fucking true. (edit: there were 30,000 TS emails, but there were quite a bit within that batch that were TS. Furthermore, it's her deceitful manner to avoid transparency regulations) Misleading. She was part of the decision-maker chain that allowed this to happen. She only played a small part. Misleading. Of course Obama didn't literally wiretap Trump Tower. However, his administration did indeed "spy" on Trump's campaign using surveillance tools. No. Most of the blame lands squarely on Obama's desk. HRC was involved though. That's what AG Barr and IG Durnham are investigating now. By all indication it looked like the process was abused for political purpose, however I highly doubt that those specific actions were illegal. Sweet Jesus no. What a weird ordeal overall. He's obviously an American by virtue of his American mother. Full stop. It highly suggested that, and since then, Schiff's counter report is full of shit. The meaningful stuff? Absolutely. That's why you don't hear about it anymore. It is discredited. Hell the Mueller report barely mentioned it. Wanna know why? It couldn't be corroborated. No idea and I'm very skeptical. Europe is fucking huge. Lord no. Many argued that his withdrawl from Iraq gave them "space", but the other regional powers are more to blame. In Obama's defense, most Americans wanted us out of Iraq. No idea. Her cheerleading in Libya (that lead to Benghazi) is of concern of what she would've done in Syria. They're not saying that is what they want. Their policies is what would be that end result. Misleading. Obama tried to resolve decades old contention and to facilitate (grease the hand) to proceed with his Iran Deal. The fact that the Iranian regime used that money for nefarious deeds is a byproduct of that. Lord no. What? You mean "Arkincide"? It's a laughable snit, but no. However, Vince Foster's death is a weee bit strange. Look it up. Wut? Yup. Any correspondence notes between him and POTUS is classified in the beginning. Except, he didn't leak it to the press... he leaked it to a friend of his, who leaked it. FBI actually had a warrant. lolwut? Yup. "Chinese hoax" wut? I believe we don't know for sure if Mankind is impacting the climate in any meaninful numbers and the analysis is very much disputed. Doesn't mean we should be assholes to our environments though.
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Aug 23, 2019 18:44:53 GMT -5
Taking things out of context now are we? avoiding the question as usual eh? What was the question? Not HBMC made a statement.
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Aug 23, 2019 18:56:56 GMT -5
Okay... now I'm worried for Joe:
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Aug 23, 2019 20:00:29 GMT -5
Ooooohh you missed it! Cute!!! Because I was trying to steer the conversation towards other motivations. So then, the discussion was not about firearms anymore! Who could have guess, from you refusing to defend your “money” point and instead only focusing on firearms… I can be surprising. Uh, then do it? Because maybe you can, but so far you had not. No. Its a simple calculus of evaluating the pros and cons. But that's exactly what I said! When the cons are this bad, the pros have to be something like “will cure cancer and solve world hunger too”. You can't get any more sparse than Dr. Ford's allegations. Zero corroboration and zero credibilty. lol. Bad faaaaaaaith! Also still not acknowledging that my behavior is consistent on politicians (and other public figures) regardless of political affiliations. I don't believe he's "emboldening" racist cops. Praising and pardoning the biggest one is a clear message that he values them and have their back. I have no idea how he could make the message clearer. You want to pretend you didn't see it, but they sure did! There are policies that Trump does that makes me go Whiskey Tango Foxtrox, and there are others that I'd give support. Yeah? Then vote for someone else in the primaries and don't vote for him in the election, if he wins the primaries! Pardoning Arapio isn't something that is damaging that disrupts the fabric of our society. It is, incredibly so. It sends a clear message to the police forces that they are above the law. When your police forces are above the law, that's when you go full authoritarian nightmare. It's at worst no different than Obama pardoning Bradley Manning (and he's a fucking traitor who put people in increased danger). Except for, you know, the racism, but you don't really care about racism and think it's quite okay. I did in last election. Yet, ya'll motherfuckers want hang Trump's bad deeds around my neck. Only when/because you support him. Start denouncing him and we won't. I mean, we don't blame Baron Iveagh for Trump, for the obvious reason that he criticize Trump as much as we do, and, very importantly, doesn't plan to vote for him. Unlike you. Nah... just me shoving it back to you. I'm not laughing Whembly. That's not a game to me. Nope. That was my limit. Those two event broke me. When it's about racist cops being paraded as the best of us, you can say “Well, it's not that bad”. When it's about teens being criticized in the media NO THAT IS BREAKING ME I CANNOT BEAR THAT. May I ask why the first event is less meaningful to you than the second one? I mean, one involved both racist cop, a pretty serious problem, and AN ACTUAL THING HAPPENING, with the guy being out of prison. Some criminal avoiding prison. The second was just words, really.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Aug 23, 2019 22:08:07 GMT -5
I want to point out whem has totally fallen for the yes kun one bullshit, something even fox news has explained as a made up story. Impressive. www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/fox-news-shep-smith-hillary-clinton-scandal-the-uranium-one-deal-2017-11None of the uranium has left the US, and HRC wasn't even involved in the UNANIMOUS decision made by 9 different agencies. Congrats whem, you're literally too stupid for even fox news. (Also, just because you don't know mankind is the root cause of climate change doesn't change the fact that mankind absolutely is, and the science backs that up.)
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Aug 24, 2019 4:47:50 GMT -5
(Also, just because you don't know mankind is the root cause of climate change doesn't change the fact that mankind absolutely is, and the science backs that up.) But remember when scientists were like “Smoking cause cancer!!!” and then the nice tobacco industry showed us the errors of our way and then we realized that smoking is actually very healthy and prevent cancer! Nobody would be stupid enough to fall for big industry obvious lies when there is a scientific consensus against it, right? Not even Whembly? Apparently not, he is stupid enough to fall for it twice, and then some.
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Post by theauldgrump on Aug 24, 2019 22:33:19 GMT -5
But, but, but what about clean coal?
The Auld Grump
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Post by steelmage99 on Aug 25, 2019 12:02:18 GMT -5
So it turns out that Dirty Donnie is a capitalist-hating dirty commie.
He just insanely ordered American companies to withdraw business from China, and ordered mail carriers to deny Fentanyl from China (and everywhere else). Guess he isn't a proponent of free market forces.
On top of that, he did it ON TWITTER!
Lest we forget, he just recently displayed clear delusions of a religious nature (the most dangerous kind), as he declared himself The Chosen One, after retweeting comments about him being the king of Israel.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Aug 25, 2019 13:43:08 GMT -5
So it turns out that Dirty Donnie is a capitalist-hating dirty commie. He just insanely ordered American companies to withdraw business from China, and ordered mail carriers to deny Fentanyl from China (and everywhere else). Guess he isn't a proponent of free market forces. On top of that, he did it ON TWITTER! Lest we forget, he just recently displayed clear delusions of a religious nature (the most dangerous kind), as he declared himself The Chosen One, after retweeting comments about him being the king of Israel. To elaborate further, he thinks he could declare a national emergency and FORCE them to not deal with China! source
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Post by semipotentwalrus on Aug 26, 2019 11:18:12 GMT -5
What's the rationale behind having to register to be allowed to vote? There's a fuck ton of downsides, so why is it a thing?
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Post by CommieCanUCK on Aug 26, 2019 11:30:37 GMT -5
What's the rationale behind having to register to be allowed to vote? There's a fuck ton of downsides, so why is it a thing? It tends to suppress the Democratic vote, and as an issue, it polls well with bootlickers, so the GOP pushes hard for this asinine policy.
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Aug 26, 2019 14:03:36 GMT -5
What's the rationale behind having to register to be allowed to vote? There's a fuck ton of downsides, so why is it a thing? -Primarily as a method of preventing citizens from committing voter fraud by voting multiple times. -it also allows voters to chose their political party and ensures voters receive the correct ballot in states with closed primaries. -it is also used to ensure proper funding/equipment is available during election day. -even if you don't register, you can get a provisional ballot and fillout a registration on the same day.
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Post by semipotentwalrus on Aug 26, 2019 14:31:04 GMT -5
But why on Earth do you have to register ahead of time for any of that?
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Aug 26, 2019 14:31:54 GMT -5
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Post by carlo87 on Aug 26, 2019 15:01:12 GMT -5
He's obviously an American by virtue of his American mother. Full stop.
Whembly, I'm actually going to have to fact check you, ever so slightly, on this one. Obama is a citizen, but only because he was born in the US. His mother's citizenship doesn't matter. Obama was born in 1961, when his mother was 18. At that time birthright citizenship worked a bit differently. You needed to have a minimal age of 19 AND have at least a minimal residency within US borders (I want to say 5 years of being in the US after age 14) to confer citizenship onto your child. This was called the residency retention clause. His mother failed both halves of it. This was changed in 1978 to what we have today.
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