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Post by mikosann on Sept 22, 2020 8:14:40 GMT -5
And somehow the Dems are closer to fascists in the US? I mean the big boogyman for trumpanzees is what again? Antifa? Which stands for what? And how many of these Anti-fascist fascists are using the power of the big bad state to oppress and take rights away from good and decent white folk? Lol the arguments from these idiots are just getting more and more bizarre. So according to this "bold" legislation, any legitimate protest can be turned into a felony by just one or two idiots. Sounds reasonable and not at all like fascism...
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Post by semipotentwalrus on Sept 22, 2020 8:24:24 GMT -5
The obvious way to illustrate how ridiculous the law is is to show up to one of Trump's rallies and break something. That'd make the entire rally felons and would apply RICO liabilities to Trump because he funded the rally that turned violent.
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Sept 22, 2020 8:30:27 GMT -5
The obvious way to illustrate how ridiculous the law is is to show up to one of Trump's rallies and break something. That'd make the entire rally felons and would apply RICO liabilities to Trump because he funded the rally that turned violent. You are still thinking like this was pre-Trump america. Rule of law is not a problem for MAGAts anymore: Trump will just flip the bird at the camera and pardon them all.
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Post by adurot on Sept 22, 2020 8:52:11 GMT -5
The obvious way to illustrate how ridiculous the law is is to show up to one of Trump's rallies and break something. That'd make the entire rally felons and would apply RICO liabilities to Trump because he funded the rally that turned violent. You are still thinking like this was pre-Trump america. Rule of law is not a problem for MAGAts anymore: Trump will just flip the bird at the camera and pardon them all.
It’s cute that you even think charges would be brought.
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Sept 22, 2020 9:15:28 GMT -5
'Cuz all of ya'll are liberal/left-wingers and I like to debate. Who moderates this place? Nobody does. We just shit on despic until he leaves. I think I'll just go back to my usual questions about Iran, usually makes him squirm. So tell me despic, can you name someone, anyone that you could see taking the lead in case of an Iranian regime change? Or do you just count on Iranians playing the political russian roulette, like when they deposed the US-backed dictator, after the US organized a coup against a democratically elected, progressive leader? Can you name anyone, or are you just the guy who plays carelessly about other people's lives because... he is despicable. Did despic actually realize that he actually doesn't like to debate yet?
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Sept 22, 2020 9:19:01 GMT -5
'Cuz all of ya'll are liberal/left-wingers and I like to debate. Nobody does. We just shit on despic until he leaves. I think I'll just go back to my usual questions about Iran, usually makes him squirm. So tell me despic, can you name someone, anyone that you could see taking the lead in case of an Iranian regime change? Or do you just count on Iranians playing the political russian roulette, like when they deposed the US-backed dictator, after the US organized a coup against a democratically elected, progressive leader? Can you name anyone, or are you just the guy who plays carelessly about other people's lives because... he is despicable. Did despic actually realize that he actually doesn't like to debate yet? HBMC...this isn't a debate. This is you being an asshoe. Stop being an asshoe HBMC.
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Sept 22, 2020 9:22:16 GMT -5
This? This is your idea of fascism? So... are you saying property damage or shutting down a fucking highway is ALWAYS okay as long it's for a "good" cause?
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Sept 22, 2020 9:27:14 GMT -5
Stop being an asshoe HBMC. I'm not an asshole, I'm adapting myself to the audience. If you don't like it, you can fuck right off, and you won't be missed. Or you can show me that the audience deserve something else. Ahahaha no I gave you enough chances that you spit on already. Also that's not my username. I'm not HBMC.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Sept 22, 2020 9:32:15 GMT -5
Collective punishment tips the scale to either fascist or old school communist. I'm not sure how else to classify it. Pretty sure only a few countries such as China, NK and Israel still really practice that.
Nobody is arguing that violent rioting is ok here (although you can debate it in a 'last refuge' sort of sense), but we also don't appreciate the notion of arresting a 100 people cause 1 dick threw a brick through a window. The keyword is proportionality.
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Post by semipotentwalrus on Sept 22, 2020 9:38:05 GMT -5
This? This is your idea of fascism? So... are you saying property damage or shutting down a fucking highway is ALWAYS okay as long it's for a "good" cause?
That has to be the strawman of the century. Didn't you say you liked debating?
How is a law promoting collective punishment ever a good idea? This is completely meaningless posturing that is physically impossible to implement without creating eleventyfive-billion unintended loopholes. If I went into a MAGA rally and threw a brick I'd turn everyone at the rally and Trump himself in to felons. How the fuck is that a good idea? Can you please think through the consequences of what you're defending for more than two seconds?
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Sept 22, 2020 9:49:47 GMT -5
Can you please think through the consequences of what you're defending for more than two seconds? He can't. It's an acknowledged fact that asking him, who openly favor an Iranian regime change, who should be part of the transition process, is "not debating, but being as asshole". He can't think and he can't debate, and he is despicable .
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Post by futurewarcultist on Sept 22, 2020 10:07:55 GMT -5
What happened to the 1st Amendment? The obvious way to illustrate how ridiculous the law is is to show up to one of Trump's rallies and break something. That'd make the entire rally felons and would apply RICO liabilities to Trump because he funded the rally that turned violent. At the very least it’ll demonstrate how hypocritical they are.
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Sept 22, 2020 10:10:38 GMT -5
Also that's not my username. I'm not HBMC. It is now HBMC.
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Sept 22, 2020 10:13:51 GMT -5
This? This is your idea of fascism? So... are you saying property damage or shutting down a fucking highway is ALWAYS okay as long it's for a "good" cause? That has to be the strawman of the century. Didn't you say you liked debating? Sure thing Jan. How on earth is this collective punishment? Here's thing. Don't VIOLENTLY protest. Just to be clear...that means: -don't burn property that's not yours -don't throw things at police -don't back highways -don't surround cars of folks driving If you PEACEFULLY protest, you won't trigger anything listed in that tweet. In other words... don't be an asshoe. If you intend to be this asshoe, then reap what you sow.
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Sept 22, 2020 10:15:50 GMT -5
Ok ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Name someone that you think should be part of a transition government in case of an Iranian regime change. Or an organization. Or a process to select someone. Or anything to show that this is not playing russian roulette with the Iranians again. (I'm such an asshole with my asking pertinent questions you don't have answers to!)
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