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Post by Disciple of Fate on Sept 23, 2020 10:54:02 GMT -5
If you let politics dominate your views? That's kind of a strange statement, as people's views dominate politics: healthcare, gun control, gay marriage, abortion, progressive laws etc.
A good part of your views are inseparable from politics, because who you are also dictates what you want to see in politics.
When people disagree with your political views, they also inherently disagree with certain views you hold as a person (with abortion of course being one of the most heated examples). Its almost inherently inseparable, to be friends/family and being able to wilfully ignore their (political) views is incredibly hard if not impossible (the 'culture wars').
Yeah we are more than politics, but politics are us.
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Post by mikosann on Sept 23, 2020 10:54:46 GMT -5
I actually agree with everything here. My only trouble with you specifically here is that given my time lurking on dakka and occasionally posting here, It seems like your goal is to provoke people into childish name-calling etc. Even the nicer people eventually got frustrated and fed up with attempting to debate you. Its just trying to "trigger the libs!" and while not as caustic as the insults you have had hurled at you, it is arguably more purposeful and purposefully provoking a response so you can call out the inevitable response to belittle those you don't agree with rather than actually debate the ideas presented is, well...deplorable.
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Post by hatoflords on Sept 23, 2020 11:08:26 GMT -5
I actually agree with everything here. My only trouble with you specifically here is that given my time lurking on dakka and occasionally posting here, It seems like your goal is to provoke people into childish name-calling etc. Even the nicer people eventually got frustrated and fed up with attempting to debate you. Its just trying to "trigger the libs!" and while not as caustic as the insults you have had hurled at you, it is arguably more purposeful and purposefully provoking a response so you can call out the inevitable response to belittle those you don't agree with rather than actually debate the ideas presented is, well...deplorable. And the reason he gets those insults hurled at him is because this is right wing politics right now. There is no attempt to debate. There is no good will. It's just disingenuous triggering, and the irony is he probably doesn't realize it's disingenuous. The GOF and Fox News have spent decades brainwashing an entire section of the population into thinking double speak and empty rhetoric are honest politics, i.e. they have lost all ability to distinguish between normal politics and abnormal politics and have perverted dishonesty into 'well meaning discourse'.
It's honestly kind of amazing how cut from a cookie cutter his every turn of phrase is.
Most of us who pay attention and have an original thought noticed this about him years ago back on Dakka, and have simply lost all interest even trying to pretend there anything civil to be had about it. I think most of use ran the gamut of frustration, pity, back to frustration, anger, to resignation and finally settled on raw contempt. He's the parrot pursuing his cracker from the right-wing circle jerk. About the only thing that makes his presence worthwhile are the depths of his delusions that we sometimes get to see, like how he is completely unaware of his starring role in getting politics banned from Dakka, or killing this board within the first 200 or so pages.
Those of us who are still here are really only here in spite of his unwitting role in making discourse untenable. It's actually kind of bizarre that he's calling anyone here intellectually small or shallow when just a few pages ago he admitted the only reason he comes here is to rile people up and take the piss. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't go to communities for the sole purpose of riling people up. As petty and unearned as some of the insults that go his way are, I can only find his calling anyone else intellectually small or shallow to be utterly laughable. He's the smallest, shallowest person I've ever met on the internet and I post on Reddit often enough.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Sept 23, 2020 11:16:32 GMT -5
Its an interesting/entertaining view into the other side at least. I tend to do it on Dutch sites too, just to get a feel for the general mood/level of crazy sliding our way. Its curious to see how people outside the US can be thoroughly drenched in GOP views and Trump worship even when it hurts their own country.
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Post by CommieCanUCK on Sept 23, 2020 11:18:42 GMT -5
If you let politics dominate your views, you'll be miserable. Wonderfully said.
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Post by futurewarcultist on Sept 23, 2020 11:44:54 GMT -5
So Trump’s latest plan is to effectively rig the electoral collage. And I think he’s going to get away with it.
Goodbye America. It wasn’t entirely unpleasant knowing you.
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Sept 23, 2020 11:45:20 GMT -5
I actually agree with everything here. My only trouble with you specifically here is that given my time lurking on dakka and occasionally posting here, It seems like your goal is to provoke people into childish name-calling etc. Even the nicer people eventually got frustrated and fed up with attempting to debate you. Its just trying to "trigger the libs!" and while not as caustic as the insults you have had hurled at you, it is arguably more purposeful and purposefully provoking a response so you can call out the inevitable response to belittle those you don't agree with rather than actually debate the ideas presented is, well...deplorable. And the reason he gets those insults hurled at him is because this is right wing politics right now. There is no attempt to debate. I call bs here. Any criticism against Democrats, particularly to individual like Obama, was hand-waved because the liberal-left believes it comes from a racist. When everything is racists... or...wanted to kill the poor... or...throw grandma off the cliff... There is no debate. It's just the sturm and drang between different ideologies. I call bs on this too. Good will left a long time ago. I wanted to have my "Thunderdome" in dakka, and we had it for a while. But, it was nuked because we couldn't be civil towards one another. That's even with all the passive-aggressive attitudes due to Rule #1™. Disingenuous how? Have you looked at the news lately? It's the Democrat/liberal lefts who's utterly lost their minds. Wolfblade isn't the exception, he's the norm of his tribe. Hold on... I lost my eyeballs after rolling them too hard. Oh, so back to having trouble with someone having differing views within the same tribe (ie, wargamers on Dakka) and wanting to push a monolithic viewpoint so one can feel "safe" in the same tribe. Is that where we're at? The issue at Dakka is that folks couldn't learn to skip aggravating post, move on and keep it civil. My animus towards you and those on this board is directly because how we treat each other. I don't like it... but, it's where we're at. My numerous attempts of extending olive branches were spurned, so there's that. Reap what you sow asshoes. I mean, what'd you expect? I had posters here wishing for my death... or, was glad that my father passed away... or, accusing me of abusing my own children... you name it. If, at any point ya'll want to come back to the table in truce and extend a little grace to each other... I'm all ears.
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Sept 23, 2020 11:46:19 GMT -5
So Trump’s latest plan is to effectively rig the electoral collage. And I think he’s going to get away with it. Goodbye America. It wasn’t entirely unpleasant knowing you. What plan is that? Win the 50 popular elections in each state?
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Sept 23, 2020 11:52:19 GMT -5
Reap what you sow asshoes. I mean, what'd you expect? I had posters here wishing for my death... or, was glad that my father passed away... or, accusing me of abusing my own children... you name it. If, at any point ya'll want to come back to the table in truce and extend a little grace to each other... I'm all ears. Why? so you can gaslight us, move the goalposts, lie, and just generally engage in bad faith? Go fuck yourself you child-abusing despicable piece of shit.
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Post by futurewarcultist on Sept 23, 2020 12:02:50 GMT -5
Seconded. Fuck off and play with the traffic you waste of fucking space.
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Sept 23, 2020 12:09:22 GMT -5
Reap what you sow asshoes. I mean, what'd you expect? I had posters here wishing for my death... or, was glad that my father passed away... or, accusing me of abusing my own children... you name it. If, at any point ya'll want to come back to the table in truce and extend a little grace to each other... I'm all ears. Why? so you can gaslight us, move the goalposts, lie, and just generally engage in bad faith? Go fuck yourself you child-abusing despicable piece of shit. Seconded. Fuck off and play with the traffic you waste of fucking space. I rest my case. I will not go gentle into that good night... Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Though wise men at their end know dark is right, Because their words had forked no lightning they Do not go gentle into that good night.
Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight, And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way, Do not go gentle into that good night.
Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
And you, my father, there on the sad height, Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray. Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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Post by futurewarcultist on Sept 23, 2020 12:21:03 GMT -5
Who runs this place? I want to apply to be a mod to get rid of this fucking cunt, again and again if needs be.
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Post by hatoflords on Sept 23, 2020 12:32:36 GMT -5
Seconded. Fuck off and play with the traffic you waste of fucking space. Come now, it must be a real struggle for him to take all the abuse, because somehow he's still here. Fuck. Kind of sad I only just realized this. He's a political masochist.
He doesn't want to debate. He wants to be a martyr. He makes people hate him and then uses that hate to justify his bullshit. Every insult thrown his way is a vindication of his broader political view, dishonestly packaged together with a shallow personality and small intellect. Every bit of vitriol thrown his way just feeds his addiction to self-righteous delusion, but he's the victim because we hate him for how he behaves.
He's right. Call his bluff and ignore him. Stop giving the dog the bone it chews on.
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Post by futurewarcultist on Sept 23, 2020 12:40:25 GMT -5
Seconded. Fuck off and play with the traffic you waste of fucking space. Come now, it must be a real struggle for him to take all the abuse, because somehow he's still here. Fuck. Kind of sad I only just realized this. He's a political masochist.
He doesn't want to debate. He wants to be a martyr. He makes people hate him and then uses that hate to justify his bullshit. Every insult thrown his way is a vindication of his broader political view, dishonestly packaged together with a shallow personality and small intellect. Every bit of vitriol thrown his way just feeds his addiction to self-righteous delusion, but he's the victim because we hate him for how he behaves.
He's right. Call his bluff and ignore him. Stop giving the dog the bone it chews on.
OK, everyone else agree?
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Sept 23, 2020 13:11:53 GMT -5
He's a political masochist. He doesn't want to debate. He wants to be a martyr. He makes people hate him and then uses that hate to justify his bullshit. Every insult thrown his way is a vindication of his broader political view, dishonestly packaged together with a shallow personality and small intellect. Every bit of vitriol thrown his way just feeds his addiction to self-righteous delusion, but he's the victim because we hate him for how he behaves.
Right, it's never your fault. Looks like you need a dose of humility of introspection.
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