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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Nov 26, 2018 17:03:50 GMT -5
from 2013? We're not talking about 2013, we're talking about 2018, remember? No. Last weekend. Oh, you mean the minority of the group, and that I've repeatedly said shouldn't have tried crossing illegally? Either way however, something like a 100,000 people regularly enter (not even counting those that are leaving) through this crossing point everyday so, yeah, I'm sure dealing with a few people must have been tough. Why, they should have just opened fire with real bullets right!? I mean, it's what Israel would do...  I mean, it literally is how you claim. You enter the country, then claim asylum. The US Army is blocking them from entering so they can't legally claim asylum. They were told by officials to get in line where they could claim it at the port of entry. A crowd trying to bum rush the border is not a well functioning process. I mean, when the wait time is upwards of months because the administration won't increase processing capacity, and they only hear a few hundred cases per day (as in, a few hundred people get to apply) while you're in mortal peril... What would you expect? People to wait orderly while their families are potentially killed or harmed and living in squalor after travelling to the border? There are solutions and it's not more armed guards with bigger guns or more tear gas. |
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Post by CommieCanUCK on Nov 26, 2018 17:04:35 GMT -5
I mean, it literally is how you claim. You enter the country, then claim asylum. The US Army is blocking them from entering so they can't legally claim asylum. They were told by officials to get in line where they could claim it at the port of entry. A crowd trying to bum rush the border is not a well functioning process. Well, no, it isn't. But neither is telling a desperate crowd of thousands to 'get in line'. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 17:24:56 GMT -5
They were told by officials to get in line where they could claim it at the port of entry. A crowd trying to bum rush the border is not a well functioning process. Well, no, it isn't. Thank you. Yes. It is. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 17:25:08 GMT -5
What I don't want, is having perverse situations where illegal immigrants believe they can cross the border illegally.
Yeah, it's silly, it's like they have lawyers or something that explain to them how it's actually legal.
Which it is.
What Trump is effectively doing is trying to create a bottleneck in the system to deny people their due process under the law. If you haven't noticed the vast majority of legal crossing points have been closed, creating the rock throwing angry mob that we've seen.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 17:26:35 GMT -5
The history of managing large groups of angry people tells us this is bullshit. In fact, it's one of the things the pamphlet tells us NOT to do. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 17:26:58 GMT -5
Oh, you mean the minority of the group, and that I've repeatedly said shouldn't have tried crossing illegally? Either way however, something like a 100,000 people regularly enter (not even counting those that are leaving) through this crossing point everyday so, yeah, I'm sure dealing with a few people must have been tough. Why, they should have just opened fire with real bullets right!? I mean, it's what Israel would do... Love the giffy. House was fucking awesome. And I'm totally ignoring your disingenuous point. They can wait in Mexico. Unless... bear with me, you think Mexico is an unstable shithole? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 17:29:28 GMT -5
Not according to the law. |
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Nov 26, 2018 17:35:04 GMT -5
Oh, you mean the minority of the group, and that I've repeatedly said shouldn't have tried crossing illegally? Either way however, something like a 100,000 people regularly enter (not even counting those that are leaving) through this crossing point everyday so, yeah, I'm sure dealing with a few people must have been tough. Why, they should have just opened fire with real bullets right!? I mean, it's what Israel would do... Love the giffy. House was fucking awesome. And I'm totally ignoring your disingenuous point. They can wait in Mexico. Unless... bear with me, you think Mexico is an unstable shithole? Yes, ignore the point that you blatantly supported, and the fact that over 100,000 people enter through there, and I'm sure the group of people the border patrol had to deal with was TOTALLY unmanageable unless they resorted to violence. . I mean, the only reason you're gonna ignore it is if it destroys your world view right? And no, I don't think Mexico is a shithole, but it has some serious problems with the cartels. However bad your Orange God has made out brown people MS13 and illegal immigrants to be, the cartels make them look like boy scouts in comparison. |
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Post by steelmage99 on Nov 26, 2018 17:48:25 GMT -5
Oh....My.....God!!!
President Trump must be the single most pathetic narcissistic being to ever disgrace the US Presidency.
This after he had a PHONE CALL to the members of the armed forces, who he is waaaay too busy playing golf to visit.
As a point of comparison;
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Post by hatoflords on Nov 26, 2018 18:04:45 GMT -5
Personally I've always found large groups of people to be perfectly reasonable and easy to control with simple commands. /sarcasm #yolo
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 18:23:06 GMT -5
Not according to the law. Well... I think you're right. (the whole "shall" being in the governing statute). However, none of these caravan is claiming asylum. They didn't take it from Mexico (why not?). The didn't take up UN's efforts to help with asylum cases. So... what are we left with? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 18:29:02 GMT -5
So should we use the same approach for gun control then? Make it so that only a few applications and background checks get processed every day and tell everyone wanting a gun to get in an orderly line and deal with it?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 18:30:33 GMT -5
Damn caravan, idiots refusing to claim asylum from gangs in a country where those gangs are active.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 18:31:43 GMT -5
Yes, ignore the point that you blatantly supported, and the fact that over 100,000 people enter through there, and I'm sure the group of people the border patrol had to deal with was TOTALLY unmanageable unless they resorted to violence. I'm ignoring this point because it's irrelevant. It doesn't change the fact that it wasn't about claiming asylum (as Mexico offered it to them originally) and they've actually tried to bum rush the point of entry. It's a meaningless point. You came in here to claim that we shouldn't be tear gassing an unruly crowd trying to bum rush a point of entry. I responded by saying that the exact same thing happened in 2013, where the border agents also tear gassed them. Yet, Obama was potus at the time... so, it must have been kosher? MS13 are bad enough. ...and yes, the cartels are a serious problem. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 18:32:30 GMT -5
So should we use the same approach for gun control then? Make it so that only a few applications and background checks get processed every day and tell everyone wanting a gun to get in an orderly line and deal with it? Immigrants (legal or otherwise) don't get that right. |
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