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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Nov 29, 2018 17:48:43 GMT -5
Maybe it's because I'm a Canuck and his vote doesn't (directly) effect me, but I didn't get too het up about Whem and his ridiculous posting habits. At least he was *trying* to engage, instead of circle jerking and sharing preposterous fantasies and self-radicalising over at r/t_D. The other side literally has a different version of reality than we do. You are NEVER going to pin someone down and get them to admit their entire worldview is wrong, and getting upset when you fail to do so is silly. "bad faith" and "Cancer" is absolutely going to happen when we have two diametrically opposed worldviews trying to have a disccusion. The real problem isn't dem/repub, left/right anyway. It's class, comrade. The Clintons and Trump were super best buds in the 90s. It's all about the boot on your neck and the hand in your pocket. You can say it's all about class, but from here your opinion looks like wishful ignorance. As someone directly affected by Americans voting, I'm pretty sure guys like Whem will be manning the watchtowers in five to ten years, yelling down into the camps how it's our fault for calling them out.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 18:57:01 GMT -5
Wow, guys, was there a throat slitting contest while I was out?
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Post by hatoflords on Nov 29, 2018 19:15:23 GMT -5
Wow, guys, was there a throat slitting contest while I was out? It seems so.
Much like the great topic bleeding of 2017, it was very bloody.
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Post by CommieCanUCK on Nov 29, 2018 19:16:32 GMT -5
There was a contest to see who could rage quit the most dramatically. I think it was too close to call, but Whemb might win just on weight of type.
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Post by steelmage99 on Nov 29, 2018 19:24:59 GMT -5
To be fair, Mueller's team leaks NOTHING. We can only guess at what he knows, and that it's a lot more than we do. The only time we get stuff from him is when an indictment is unsealed and someone gets arrested, by which time they've probably been sitting on the indictment for awhile.
That's true and Mueller's produced a lot relative to other investigations like his. I'm just ready to be done with it. It's old. It was old when we were a month into it really, and the chances of the earth shattering result some want are way out there for me. Unless Mueller has something real ground breaking I think he's at the end of his rope and investigations shouldn't be dragged out well past their time just because certain people don't like the results.
These kinds of investigations takes time. As a point of comparison; Watergate investigation (26 months): June 20, 1972 - August 9, 1974 Whitewater Investigation (49 months): August 1994 - September 1998 Benghazi investigation (54 months): Sep 13, 2012 - Dec 7, 2016 Iran-Contra (80 months): Nov 26, 1986 - Aug 4, 1993 Donald Trump Campaign/Russia Investigation: May 2017 - ??......18 months, so far.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 20:31:52 GMT -5
Ugh, some idiot is screaming at me in twitter how the nazis were leftists again. I wish people would take the time to learn anything about the subject...
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Post by hatoflords on Nov 29, 2018 20:53:31 GMT -5
Ugh, some idiot is screaming at me in twitter how the nazis were leftists again. I wish people would take the time to learn anything about the subject... But you don't get it. Socialist is in the name! Of course they were leftists!
I propose we stop gauging politics on a left-right spectrum. That in itself is just dumbing down complex perspectives into into a simple "vs" mentality for the sole sake of political rhetoric.
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Post by tannhauser42 on Nov 29, 2018 20:57:34 GMT -5
Unfortunately, as long as we maintain the winner takes all election system, it will always be a simple spectrum of one side against the other.
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Post by lonestarr777 on Nov 29, 2018 21:21:32 GMT -5
Remember when the History Channel was the WW2 channel? Maybe we need to go back that with an emphasis on Hitlers rise and less tank battles.
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Post by hatoflords on Nov 29, 2018 21:51:35 GMT -5
Remember when the History Channel was the WW2 channel? Maybe we need to go back that with an emphasis on Hitlers rise and less tank battles. But then where I watch repetitive documentaries about the Battle of France? This one has never before scene footage that we've totally seen before!
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Post by lonestarr777 on Nov 29, 2018 22:15:51 GMT -5
All I'm saying is there was a lot less Nazi's around when the History Channel was reminding us how bad they were all the time.
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Post by hatoflords on Nov 29, 2018 22:21:17 GMT -5
All I'm saying is there was a lot less Nazi's around when the History Channel was reminding us how bad they were all the time. Huh... you're not wrong XD
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Nov 29, 2018 22:24:27 GMT -5
Keep in mind correlation does not always equal causation however.
I think it's safer to say there were fewer openly racist people in power before, and now that there are a lot more, the closet racists feel empowered enough to come out into the open.
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Post by hatoflords on Nov 29, 2018 22:38:50 GMT -5
Keep in mind correlation does not always equal causation however.
I know. It's just that it's an amusing thing to think about
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Post by A Town Called Malus on Nov 30, 2018 4:09:31 GMT -5
Ugh, some idiot is screaming at me in twitter how the nazis were leftists again. I wish people would take the time to learn anything about the subject... But you don't get it. Socialist is in the name! Of course they were leftists! Exactly! That's how we know that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy! It has to be! It's right there in the name!
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