Haighus
Ye Olde King of OT
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Post by Haighus on May 29, 2023 14:50:09 GMT -5
If he posts anything about free speech, he should be reported for trolling... He was complaining about cancel culture while (as we now know) he was trying to take ETC down behind the scenes. He has complained about cancel culture (or at least complained about something heavily alluded to as cancel culture) since ETC got nuked for the third and final time too. I guess he did the good kind of cancel culture.
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Post by adurot on May 29, 2023 14:56:45 GMT -5
It’s only Cancel Culture when the Left does it.
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herzlos
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Post by herzlos on May 30, 2023 4:14:58 GMT -5
...it's obviously the community that makes it and that seems to have just evaporated. ..."just evaporated"... More like deliberately and maliciously assaulted and destroyed.
I was being polite I'd hate to think he's won, but I'm not sure what we can do to rebuild at this point.
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Haighus
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Post by Haighus on May 30, 2023 4:17:23 GMT -5
..."just evaporated"... More like deliberately and maliciously assaulted and destroyed.
I was being polite I'd hate to think he's won, but I'm not sure what we can do to rebuild at this point. Fair. I didn't feel he deserves politeness myself, but I am still harbouring a lot of negative feelings about the events. Well, much of the community remains here, but I think there is a lot of bitterness and burnout still and activity levels are much lower. So yeah, significant victory for censorship, albeit not total victory. I do think the incident has caused RiTides a lot of reputational damage on Dakka, even amongst people who were not active on ETC. That probably doesn't mean much and he has his own group of supporters too. I know I won't personally support any further kickstarters by RiTides (I backed the modular dice token kickstarter some years back).
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Post by pacific on May 30, 2023 5:07:46 GMT -5
..."just evaporated"... More like deliberately and maliciously assaulted and destroyed.
I was being polite I'd hate to think he's won, but I'm not sure what we can do to rebuild at this point. To view in the larger context, anyone that is that messed up to do something like that and take away that enjoyment from all of those people? They are definitely not the 'winner' by any sort of measure. I just feel sorry for them and any of the people around them, as they must be a very sad person indeed.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on May 30, 2023 10:45:58 GMT -5
RiTides is trapped in a delusional cycle of being told "the left" are the evil ones ruining the country, then has to justify the R's doing precisely what they claim the left is doing, while "remembering" a "better" time when both sides were a lot closer in their views and beliefs. It's ok to despise him for what he did and what he has shown he believes in, and his refusal to have any self-reflection, but there's also some room for pity because of the fact that he was, once upon a time, probably a stand-up guy and has lost his way because he blindly believes everything the republicans tell him.
At least, that's my viewpoint.
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herzlos
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Post by herzlos on May 30, 2023 15:50:59 GMT -5
He's definitely gone down that right wing rabbit hole pretty hard, and sadly any attempts to bring him back will just make him burrow even harder until he eventually realizes for himself.
It's a shame, because at one point he seemed like quite a nice guy.
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on May 31, 2023 1:51:40 GMT -5
I removed the forum but kept the database around just in case. May remove it later.
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Post by adurot on May 31, 2023 2:48:18 GMT -5
I removed the forum but kept the database around just in case. May remove it later. I can’t believe you killed an entire forum! Clearly the Extremist Left is the worst threat to free speech with their unfair cancel culture! No one on the right would ever do this!
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semipotentwalrus
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Post by semipotentwalrus on May 31, 2023 10:26:41 GMT -5
I still think whembly's 25625642756424686436755 Benghazi posts is the perfect illustration of when Dakka started spiralling downhill. Should've just booted him from OT and been done with it.
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Post by whembly on May 31, 2023 16:11:30 GMT -5
I still think whembly's 25625642756424686436755 Benghazi posts is the perfect illustration of when Dakka started spiralling downhill. Should've just booted him from OT and been done with it. No, it went downhill because participants couldn't be adults to disagree within the framework of Dakka's rules. If you believed I was wrong on my positions, I should be allowed to hold those position nonetheless. It really went downhill after Trump won in late 2016. I have DMs in Dakka from plenty of Hillary voters who called me non-human. Also... too bad ETC wasn't around. Curious as to why it went all downhill. Trying wayback machine: web.archive.org/web/20221204133149/https://www.etcforums.com/forum/general-politicsWayback machine is klunky...
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on May 31, 2023 16:12:43 GMT -5
It went downhill because of people like you who can't engage with reality.
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Haighus
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Post by Haighus on Jun 1, 2023 1:27:51 GMT -5
People are allowed to hold whatever views they like. Not all views are equally valid though, and shouldn't expect to be treated as such when acted upon (incl. the act of speech), especially if they are oppressive and/or detached from reality.
In a discussion forum, posters who are unable to engage in good faith harm the discussion, not help it.
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Post by whembly on Jun 1, 2023 8:36:01 GMT -5
People are allowed to hold whatever views they like. Not all views are equally valid though, and shouldn't expect to be treated as such when acted upon (incl. the act of speech), especially if they are oppressive and/or detached from reality. In a discussion forum, posters who are unable to engage in good faith harm the discussion, not help it. The problem here though is that many adversarial posters conflate disagreement with "bad faith". That's how the discussion goes downhill and ends up being an echo chamber. I've lurked here for a long time and there's no real dissent here. No real discussion. Just venting and yelling into the ether.
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Post by adurot on Jun 1, 2023 8:38:43 GMT -5
People are allowed to hold whatever views they like. Not all views are equally valid though, and shouldn't expect to be treated as such when acted upon (incl. the act of speech), especially if they are oppressive and/or detached from reality. In a discussion forum, posters who are unable to engage in good faith harm the discussion, not help it. The problem here though is that many adversarial posters conflate disagreement with "bad faith". That's how the discussion goes downhill and ends up being an echo chamber. I've lurked here for a long time and there's no real dissent here. No real discussion. Just venting and yelling into the ether. The problem is how you state things as facts, not opinions, get proven wrong, and then ignore that and continue to lie.
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