herzlos
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Post by herzlos on May 31, 2023 4:00:39 GMT -5
Separate cycle lanes is also a good idea (not just painted bicycle gutters...).
That's another thing I only sort of appreciated recently, is that you can't rely on drivers being reasonable so the only way to get cars to respect road boundaries is to make it damaging to the car to leave them, and thus painted lines are purely decorative.
I'm sure it's common everywhere but most places with just painted lines here for bike lanes as part of the carriageway are full of parked cars, cars dodging traffic/potholes or preparing to turn left. So you need either a curb or bollards or something, which is what Edinburgh has been doing lately and I certainly feel a lot more comfortable with that approach.
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Haighus
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Post by Haighus on May 31, 2023 6:06:25 GMT -5
Separate cycle lanes is also a good idea (not just painted bicycle gutters...).
That's another thing I only sort of appreciated recently, is that you can't rely on drivers being reasonable so the only way to get cars to respect road boundaries is to make it damaging to the car to leave them, and thus painted lines are purely decorative.
I'm sure it's common everywhere but most places with just painted lines here for bike lanes as part of the carriageway are full of parked cars, cars dodging traffic/potholes or preparing to turn left. So you need either a curb or bollards or something, which is what Edinburgh has been doing lately and I certainly feel a lot more comfortable with that approach.
Fully agree. Painted bike lanes are actually less safe than just cycling in the road with the new highway code rule to overtake cyclists as if they were car-sized. You don't have to give as much space if the cyclist is in a separate "lane", even if it means the wing mirror is 3" from their handlebars...
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Post by easye on May 31, 2023 10:06:22 GMT -5
I imagine a future where access to a self-driving, electric car will be a subscription service. These cars will then constantly be ferrying around the "sub" network picking people up, taking them where they need to go, and then driving to the next person who summons them. They will get very little downtime, and actually owning a car of your own will be less common than now.
Then, with "fewer cars" we can actually get back to the "Gym of Life" and make infrastructure or actual people too.
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