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Post by maddocgrotsnik on Apr 30, 2023 14:45:10 GMT -5
How do!
But yea. Fuck the King.
For those unaware, Charles is set for coronation. Which has seemingly blurred the knuckles of the Right Wing Gutter Press, who are “inviting” Us Mere Plebs to, i shit you not, in the 21st Century, Swear Allegiance To The King.
I, for one, will do no such thing. Whilst I have no beef with the individuals who benefit from it (look, someone has to win, whichever variant of the game of life you end up playing), I utterly, utterly loathe the institution. But more than that? I utterly despise the fawning and forelock tugging that goes along with it. Because it all feeds back into our pointless and baseless class system. The argument “those most deserving end up with the most”.
So…yeah.
Fuck the King. Fuck the Monarchy. Abolish peerages. Ban public schools. Egalitarian ideal now!
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Post by crispy78 on Apr 30, 2023 17:25:07 GMT -5
Yeah, bollocks to that.
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Post by herzlos on May 1, 2023 3:59:05 GMT -5
The Coronation is expected to cost the taxpayer £100m, in a time when the poorest are suffering the worst cost of living increase crisis in a long time. If Charles' paid for some of it himself (from his £600m net worth) I wouldn't mind *quite* so much. But still they'll get to sit at home shivering whilst they watch some rich toff ponce about in a golden carriage worth more than they'd ever make in a life time. That's if they can afford to power their TV. It cost £7k in 1762, so about £3.5m in todays money. I dread to think how much it costs to maintain. I've no real objection to a pointless figurehead, and it's nice to give the plebs a bit of circus occasionally, but the whole thing seems totally distasteful. And the Unionists are out in force with their bunting and vitriol, which is always tedious.
But we do get an extra days holiday for it this year, which I'm hypocritically fine with
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Post by nfe on May 1, 2023 4:05:00 GMT -5
The 'invitation' is garbled messaging from an Archbishop of Canterbury press release.
The service just says 'all who desire...say together'. It doesn't actually 'invite' and it certainly doesn't 'ask' as lots of the papers have it. Give it its due, it's about as standoffish as it could be whilst still including the Peers pledge.
Plenty of parts of this ludicrous pageantry to be angry about. Don't need invented stuff.
Obviously we oblige immigrants seeking citizenship to pledge allegiance, though. You'd think people so passionate on social media about this misrepresentation would have given a shit at any point in the past about that.
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on May 2, 2023 5:31:08 GMT -5
Fuck the King. Fuck the Monarchy. Abolish peerages. Ban public schools. Egalitarian ideal now! You mean private schools? Or does public schools means something else than what I think it means? I agree with everything else!
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Post by herzlos on May 2, 2023 6:15:31 GMT -5
Fuck the King. Fuck the Monarchy. Abolish peerages. Ban public schools. Egalitarian ideal now! You mean private schools? Or does public schools means something else than what I think it means? I agree with everything else!
In England, private schools are called public schools, and public schools are called state schools. Don't blame me, I think it's bonkers.
They are "public" because they are open to anyone (who can pay for it), and aren't restricted by region, religion etc. They are also, for some reason that's totally not about corruption, usually registered as charities and thus are exempt from tax.
The official line is that education can be a charitable act, even if someone is paying as much as £45k/year to receive such charity.
It's totally bent, and attempts to remove the charitable status from schools has been always been resisted by impartial politicians who happen to send their kids to these schools and are friends with the people who would have to pay the taxes.
State schools are free at point of use (tax funded) but have catchment areas you need to live in to attend. Previously I think you had to get approval from the local Priest to attend Catholic schools too, but I don't think that's really a thing anymore, at least up in Scotland anyone can attend or work in a Catholic school.
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Post by herzlos on May 2, 2023 6:26:13 GMT -5
I'm still torn on the peerages thing. I like that there's a 2nd house of people who are notionally impartial and long term, but I absolutely despise that Prime Ministers can nominate their cronies so it's used as a bribe and a mechanism to stack the house.
I'm not sure if replacing it with a 2nd elected chamber would work, because it'd almost certainly contain the same political makeup as the 1st chamber (Commons) which are a terrible representation of the voting public. You could have some kind of rules in place to break that bias like in Scotland where a party doing well on the regional votes are seriously disadvantaged for the list vote. Or you could have it such that it's made up in a way that the majority party in the 1st chamber is a minority party in the 2nd chamber, but no majority 1st chamber party would vote to give away so much power.
As bent as the Lords is, at least it's kind of harder to stack the chamber in the short term, and they have stopped a lot of the worst proposals coming out of the Tory party recently.
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on May 2, 2023 7:26:38 GMT -5
They are "public" because they are open to anyone (who can pay for it), and aren't restricted by region, religion etc. They are also, for some reason that's totally not about corruption, usually registered as charities and thus are exempt from tax. The official line is that education can be a charitable act, even if someone is paying as much as £45k/year to receive such charity. It's totally bent, and attempts to remove the charitable status from schools has been always been resisted by impartial politicians who happen to send their kids to these schools and are friends with the people who would have to pay the taxes. State schools are free at point of use (tax funded) but have catchment areas you need to live in to attend. Previously I think you had to get approval from the local Priest to attend Catholic schools too, but I don't think that's really a thing anymore, at least up in Scotland anyone can attend or work in a Catholic school. Thanks. Seems bonkers!
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Post by easye on May 2, 2023 9:09:31 GMT -5
I think the Tories are forgetting the Bread with their "Bread and Circuses" strategy?
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Post by maddocgrotsnik on May 3, 2023 2:56:50 GMT -5
S’funny.
Not so long ago, the very same papers now brown nosing Camilla Parked-her-Bowels, the same ones that hounded Diana Spencer to her death, were demanding she couldn’t possibly be Queen because fucking stupid reasons.
But hey, I guess since then they’ve got Kate as the vacuous void of personality to mindlessly report in (fuck me, Kate is wearing a dress! Ooooh she can shake hands!) and Megan as the focus of irrational hatred (ugh, she’s wearing a dress. Did you see that vile bitch trying to suck up to the common man by shaking hands with them? Vile harridan!) seemingly Camilla gets a pass all of a sudden.
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Post by crispy78 on May 3, 2023 6:33:36 GMT -5
High five to Frankie Boyle for his Farewell to the Monarchy special.
"The time has come to say farewell to the monarchy. Let’s raise a bottle to them... filled with petrol and a burning rag."
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Post by nfe on May 3, 2023 11:19:08 GMT -5
Previously I think you had to get approval from the local Priest to attend Catholic schools too, but I don't think that's really a thing anymore, at least up in Scotland anyone can attend or work in a Catholic school. [/div][/quote] Sort of. All staff hired by religious schools in Scotland 'shall be required to be approved as regards [their] religious belief and character by representatives of the church or denominational body in whose interest the school has been conducted'. In practice Catholic high schools teach and employ a fair number of non-Catholic people, because the church chooses to allow it. Catholic primary schools are far more oversubscribed, so teach a lower percentage of non-Catholics, and, largely because they deal with children having first communions and confirmations, they employ very few in teaching roles - you need a specific education qualification to teach in them, which you can only get at (I think) two universities, and the vast majority of primary teaching students who take that qualification are Catholic. A letter from your priest goes a LONG way to getting you on to primary teaching courses at the universities that have Catholic teaching certificates.
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Post by pacific on May 4, 2023 8:00:31 GMT -5
High five to Frankie Boyle for his Farewell to the Monarchy special. "The time has come to say farewell to the monarchy. Let’s raise a bottle to them... filled with petrol and a burning rag." I am downloading the C4 app just to watch that episode - I have heard great things!
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Post by nfe on May 9, 2023 1:23:17 GMT -5
edited - an error.
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Post by maddocgrotsnik on May 9, 2023 3:28:35 GMT -5
Keep seeing snippets on social media.
What a fucking freak show. Oh look here comes Camilla, everyone sing nice things about her.
Just…vileness on display. Vulgar displays of wealth as a distraction for the plebs.
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