News from the Realm of Religion

[mdgv2]

WhErE aM tEh PrOoF.

Someone him show death statistics since the vaccines were rolled out. Notice how fewer and fewer person die from diseases with available vaccines.

[easye]

www.npr.org/2024/04/23/1245103759/lgbtq-clergy-same-sex-weddings-united-methodists

United Methodists will again debate LGBTQ clergy and same-sex weddings

Same-sex weddings and LGBTQ clergy are two of the topics front and center as the United Methodist Church opens it General Conference Tuesday in Charlotte, N.C. In recent years, the church — which is one of the largest Protestant groups in the U.S. — has seen many if its congregations leave over the issues.

Currently, the United Methodist Book of Discipline, the church's rule book, says "The practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching." That sentence was added in 1972 during the rise of what was then called the gay rights movement. Elsewhere, the book also prohibits United Methodist clergy from performing same-sex weddings, and it says the church does not ordain LGBTQ clergy.

The General Conference, which includes United Methodists from around the world, is the only church authority that can change the rules around issues of sexuality. It could do a variety of things with the rules' language: it could leave it as it is; it could remove it altogether; or it could remove what some consider more negative language and add affirming language.

[easye]

www.npr.org/2024/06/24/nx-s1-5017881/robert-morris-gateway-church-sex-abuse-scandal-explained

The scandal roiling one of the nation's biggest megachurches, explained

Accusations of child molestation from decades ago have brought down a pastor who founded one of the largest megachurches in the U.S. and once served as an evangelical adviser to former President Donald Trump.

Texas pastor Robert Morris recently admitted to "inappropriate sexual behavior" with a 12-year-old girl in the 1980s and stepped down from his post at Gateway Church based in Dallas. The allegations were first published on June 14 by The Wartburg Watch, a blog dedicated to examining abuse and other issues in the church. The blog shared the account of Cindy Clemishire, who accused Morris of molesting her for several years, beginning when she was 12.

Sexual misconduct!?! In a church you say? I never would have suspected!

[Disciple of Fate]

That's some dark joke that Trump's "spiritual advisor" is a pedophile while they accuse the other side of being groomers.

[A Town Called Malus]

Jun 27, 2024 13:00:23 GMT -5 Disciple of Fate said:

That's some dark joke that Trump's "spiritual advisor" is a pedophile while they accuse the other side of being groomers.

I mean, did anyone seriously expect anything different? I'm pretty sure if you just make the blanket assumption that every right-wing Christian worship leader involved in politics is a paedophile you'll end up with a success rate quite a bit over 50%.

[mdgv2]

Jun 27, 2024 13:00:23 GMT -5 Disciple of Fate said:

That's some dark joke that Trump's "spiritual advisor" is a pedophile while they accuse the other side of being groomers.

Every Republican accusation is in fact a confession.

[republicanpsych0]

Jun 29, 2024 7:09:54 GMT -5 A Town Called Malus said:

Jun 27, 2024 13:00:23 GMT -5 Disciple of Fate said:

That's some dark joke that Trump's "spiritual advisor" is a pedophile while they accuse the other side of being groomers.

I mean, did anyone seriously expect anything different? I'm pretty sure if you just make the blanket assumption that every right-wing Christian worship leader involved in politics is a paedophile you'll end up with a success rate quite a bit over 50%.

remember when kyle rittenhouse randomly shot 3 dems and it turns out 2 were pedos? fuckin 66%

every dem accusation is a confession.

its goddamn bizarro world over here. where all these fat, white, lonely gamers are the fuckin saviors of humanity and morality, when you own mums probably don want you around.

itd be funny if it wasnt so fucking pathetic

[Disciple of Fate]

Jun 29, 2024 7:09:54 GMT -5 A Town Called Malus said:

Jun 27, 2024 13:00:23 GMT -5 Disciple of Fate said:

That's some dark joke that Trump's "spiritual advisor" is a pedophile while they accuse the other side of being groomers.

I mean, did anyone seriously expect anything different? I'm pretty sure if you just make the blanket assumption that every right-wing Christian worship leader involved in politics is a paedophile you'll end up with a success rate quite a bit over 50%.

Yeah, but him having a pedophile for a spiritual advisor is as on the nose as you can get.

[easye]

An interesting look at how the "Culture War" destroyed a progressive church.

www.npr.org/2024/10/28/nx-s1-5165379/circle-of-hope-culture-wars-eliza-griswold

How culture wars divided one small progressive church in Philadelphia

In its heyday, Philadelphia's Circle of Hope church presented a radical vision of Christianity. Founded in 1996 as a reaction against the religious right, the church, which eventually grew to 700 members, was committed to living out Jesus' teachings and addressing social ills.

Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Eliza Griswold, who embedded with the congregation for four years, beginning in 2019, says church members planted community gardens, avoided buying anything new and shared their paychecks with neighbors living in poverty. "They really lived in ways that that inspired me, that I admired," she says.

But despite their shared egalitarian vision, the congregation disagreed over some of the same issues that have divided the country — including the COVID-19 pandemic and the racial reckoning after George Floyd was murdered by a police officer. In her new book, Circle of Hope: A Reckoning with Love, Power, and Justice in an American Church, Griswold explores how complaints about homophobia, white privilege and a lack of racial diversity eventually led the congregation to dissolve in January 2024.

A good interview. I often think the zeitgeist is about separation and not unity at the moment.

[redchimera]

Welby went at last (good riddance to the rancid little man), but now Cotrell, (the Archbishop of York) "admires" him for stepping aside (when he should have done it a decade ago). Obviously, Cottrell is trying to 'damage control the damage control' by saying no one else needs to go, and so try and keep the establishment in place (like, himself - got to officially retire to get that life peerage)!