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Post by Disciple of Fate on Jul 24, 2023 5:55:15 GMT -5
New season of Futurama streams today, for those curious.
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Jul 24, 2023 8:37:49 GMT -5
am parody, but still fuck tankies.
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Post by adurot on Jul 24, 2023 8:47:25 GMT -5
New season of Dragon Prince just dropped, about the start that.
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Post by Haighus on Jul 24, 2023 8:52:31 GMT -5
New season of Dragon Prince just dropped, about the start that. Ooh, did it? I know what I'm doing this evening. |
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Post by pacific on Jul 24, 2023 9:11:08 GMT -5
I have just finished Old Man (Jeff Bridges, John Lithgow) and would thoroughly recommend it.
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Post by easye on Jul 24, 2023 11:28:20 GMT -5
So for those not completely immersed in the online culture wars, can someone tell me what a Tankie is?
Is that slang for a Stalinist or something?
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Jul 24, 2023 11:29:39 GMT -5
I believe it's a very specific term for a type of communist that is very pro-stalin.
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Post by Haighus on Jul 24, 2023 11:55:05 GMT -5
Technically, a tankie is a leftist supporter of the Soviet Union, specifically after the watershed moment of the USSR rolling tanks into Hungary in 1956. I think this was actually after Stalin, his atrocities were not widely know prior to this, but the crushing of Hungary showed that the USSR absolutely did not support democracy.
Those leftists who continued to support it afterwards received the derogatory term tankies from other leftists.
Since then, it has come to mean supporters of Marxism-Leninism in general, or more recently to Russian authoritarianism in general. The latter meaning is what you see most commonly in the modern discourse, for self-purported leftists supporting Putin's regime. I say self-purported because I do not see how supporting an imperialist capitalist state (Putin's Russia) is compatible with a leftist position, whereas I can see it for supporters of the USSR even if I vehemently disagree with authoritarianism.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Jul 24, 2023 12:21:39 GMT -5
I say self-purported because I do not see how supporting an imperialist capitalist state (Putin's Russia) is compatible with a leftist position, whereas I can see it for supporters of the USSR even if I vehemently disagree with authoritarianism. Personally, I think these people just want to criticize the West at all cost, but have no fixed position/values beyond that. People who need to be in a 'team', so they pick the closest available to the one they oppose. In my experience, all these people come up with is whataboutism, because they have no core values to argue from. They don't even particularly care about Russia, its just a platform for them. A bit similar to people opposing Covid regulations, quite a few of them didn't really have a particular position, all they cared about was using it as a platform against the government. |
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Post by adurot on Jul 25, 2023 1:29:57 GMT -5
Technically, a tankie is a leftist supporter of the Soviet Union, specifically after the watershed moment of the USSR rolling tanks into Hungary in 1956. I think this was actually after Stalin, his atrocities were not widely know prior to this, but the crushing of Hungary showed that the USSR absolutely did not support democracy. Those leftists who continued to support it afterwards received the derogatory term tankies from other leftists. Since then, it has come to mean supporters of Marxism-Leninism in general, or more recently to Russian authoritarianism in general. The latter meaning is what you see most commonly in the modern discourse, for self-purported leftists supporting Putin's regime. I say self-purported because I do not see how supporting an imperialist capitalist state (Putin's Russia) is compatible with a leftist position, whereas I can see it for supporters of the USSR even if I vehemently disagree with authoritarianism.  |
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