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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Jul 29, 2019 18:11:12 GMT -5
Whembly: yes the sanctions are working, this is exactly what I want! I want to help my fellow conservative [insert group here] against those bad progressive that might push for more gay rights and feminism, also I like it when people suffer! That's my take away from any interaction with whem, and I'll only chime in now that it's reached the natural conclusion it was destined for.
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Jul 30, 2019 12:35:47 GMT -5
The sanctions are working though. You would need to tell me what the aim of the sanction was so we can see if they are working. What's the aim of the sanctions? From what I can tell, it's to make the people suffer because: To back down from building nuclear weapons. Iran has history in destablizing the region (more particularly, by proxy against Iraq and Israel). Stop hand waving their bad actions. Cry baby. BS. They want to be a regional hegemony and export their hardline ideologies. You couldn't be further from the truth. Your willful ignorance as to what it means to "gerrymander a congressional district" and how exactly the Electoral College is telling. You can state that the Electoral College has problems... but, it has nothing to do with "gerrymandering". When you gerrymander CD, its only for seats in the House...which to "gerrymander" a CD, you are drawling up CD borders that "packs" in certain voters that gives a political party an advantage. Further more, whether or NOT a political party gerrymanders a CD, the states still has the same number of CDs. Because of the preceding sentence, it is why the act of "gerrymandering" doesn't have any impact to how EV is assigned during presidential elections. It was investigated... and was found lacking. Literally "he said, she said" and the fact that she claimed to know him doesn't add anything whatsoever to the credibility of her accusations. *YOU* believed Sanders that it'd be cheaper overall. I said you shouldn't trust when a politician says it'd be better/cheaper overall. As, that almost NEVER fucking happens. Furthermore, you asked where I got the total number from, which you asked for sourcing.
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Jul 30, 2019 12:39:01 GMT -5
The Iranian progressives (you know, the people in favor of more liberty and more human rights!) are discredited, the hardline factions are gaining ground, Iran is capturing British oil tankers, the revolutionary guard is arresting bi-national researchers like Fariba Adelkhah as bargaining chips, the Iranian economy is going very badly, people suffer a lot from things like embargo on medecines. Whembly: yes the sanctions are working, this is exactly what I want! I want to help my fellow conservative the hardline Islamists against those bad progressive that might push for more gay rights and feminism, also I like it when people suffer! Right. Like the people won't suffer if sanctions are dropped and the hardliner gets even more money/power. Why do you support the hardliners so much? Every actions you are advocating for regarding to Iran only empowers the hardliners.
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Jul 30, 2019 17:12:16 GMT -5
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semipotentwalrus
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Post by semipotentwalrus on Jul 30, 2019 17:48:05 GMT -5
To be fair, you did say they were "ideologues", which is something you've yet to define or demonstrate to be the case.
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Post by CommieCanUCK on Jul 30, 2019 18:28:31 GMT -5
That's because, generally speaking, conservative dogma and higher education are at odds with one another. There's a reason Republicans don't want their kids to get a good education.
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Jul 30, 2019 18:30:43 GMT -5
To back down from building nuclear weapons. The deal was working at this. Leaving the deal is pushing them to actually build some. Iran has history in destablizing the region (more particularly, by proxy against Iraq and Israel). No, not really. Iran has history in pushing its interests in the region. Which sometimes means stabilizing, sometime destabilizing. Do you know who else has been pushing its interests in the region? Bully nation. Most importantly: the sanctions don't prevent Iran from using its proxies, quite the opposite really. Stop hand waving their bad actions. Again, I'm not. What I am handwaving, though, is how those sanctions will help with this. What I am saying is that those sanctions make the situation worse. That's what a bully would say. They want to be a regional hegemony and export their hardline ideologies. None of which require any war to happen. Like the people won't suffer if sanctions are dropped and the hardliner gets even more money/power. But that's the freaking thing, you “America fuck yeah” ignoramus: the hardliners HAD LESS POWER before the US left the deal. There was a moderate president trying to make small moderate reforms. Iran was having more commercial exchange with the western world. Things were, slowly, improving. I think your problem is that you somehow fail at realizing that not everyone in the Iranian political sphere is the same… Iran isn't some kind of Borg conglomerate where everyone follows the hive mind, can you believe it? You couldn't be further from the truth. That's rich coming from someone who wrote “I literally don't have any idea how's switzerland is like.” You don't fucking know anything about the Tarik Ramadan rape case but you'll tell me how much more substantiated it is than the Kavanaugh rape case. You don't fucking know a single thing about Swiss cantons but you'll tell me about US states are more different than Swiss cantons. You need to learn humility man, and actually take into account that you don't know everything. For real. When you gerrymander CD, its only for seats in the House...which to "gerrymander" a CD, you are drawling up CD borders that "packs" in certain voters that gives a political party an advantage. In the EC it's about state borders instead and was done long ago, still basically the same thing. It was investigated... and was found lacking. Literally "he said, she said" and the fact that she claimed to know him doesn't add anything whatsoever to the credibility of her accusations. In case of “he said, she said”, strong suspicion in favor of the person coming out as having been raped. Definitely won't give the potential rapists a place in the highest court. I said you shouldn't trust when a politician says it'd be better/cheaper overall. So, you should trust him when he says something, but not really trust him that what he says is right, you should just trust him 100% that the figures he gives is right about something else than what he says the figure is about. ST00PID!!!
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Jul 30, 2019 18:31:39 GMT -5
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Jul 30, 2019 18:35:49 GMT -5
Guess who wrote that: “The recent Mueller testimony and the American media's embarrassing, deceitful performance with respect to the Russia collusion hoax have blown the lid open: Big media is a partisan, deceitful force. That was always true, but they have never before been so sloppy and so open about their pro-Democratic Party and pro-deep state lying and propaganda.
The Mueller investigation may be a watershed in Americans' recognition that their press is fraudulent, TV news is fraudulent, and leading Internet sites are fraudulent. We may be looking at a future in which TV news is so discredited that that it will become a fringe, crank source like the National Enquirer or left-wing tabloids sold at the gates of college campuses.” Take a wild guess!
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Jul 30, 2019 18:45:18 GMT -5
Guess who wrote that: “The recent Mueller testimony and the American media's embarrassing, deceitful performance with respect to the Russia collusion hoax have blown the lid open: Big media is a partisan, deceitful force. That was always true, but they have never before been so sloppy and so open about their pro-Democratic Party and pro-deep state lying and propaganda. The Mueller investigation may be a watershed in Americans' recognition that their press is fraudulent, TV news is fraudulent, and leading Internet sites are fraudulent. We may be looking at a future in which TV news is so discredited that that it will become a fringe, crank source like the National Enquirer or left-wing tabloids sold at the gates of college campuses.” Take a wild guess! Does that sound like… an ideologue? It sure does sound like an ideologue!!!
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Jul 31, 2019 9:19:27 GMT -5
Guess who wrote that: “The recent Mueller testimony and the American media's embarrassing, deceitful performance with respect to the Russia collusion hoax have blown the lid open: Big media is a partisan, deceitful force. That was always true, but they have never before been so sloppy and so open about their pro-Democratic Party and pro-deep state lying and propaganda. The Mueller investigation may be a watershed in Americans' recognition that their press is fraudulent, TV news is fraudulent, and leading Internet sites are fraudulent. We may be looking at a future in which TV news is so discredited that that it will become a fringe, crank source like the National Enquirer or left-wing tabloids sold at the gates of college campuses.” Take a wild guess! Does that sound like… an ideologue? It sure does sound like an ideologue!!! You're right.. does sound like an ideologue. My guess? Rush.
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Jul 31, 2019 10:32:03 GMT -5
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Jul 31, 2019 10:34:58 GMT -5
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Jul 31, 2019 11:08:17 GMT -5
Well, you are the one who introduced me to him. He is the PhD holder whose work on political assignation in academia you linked to earlier. He is the one whose data back your idea that academia is filled with leftist ideologues. He is part of academia, and sound like an ideologue, but not a left-wing one though. I'd comment on his study if it did not cost 42 €.
Anyway that's all details. Much more interested in pushing you to think more about the Iran sanctions and finally get it to you that they aren't justified morally simply because Iran does have a bad human right record, if they don't intend to, and practically do not, help in improving the human rights of the population.
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Jul 31, 2019 11:31:35 GMT -5
Well, you are the one who introduced me to him. He is the PhD holder whose work on political assignation in academia you linked to earlier. He is the one whose data back your idea that academia is filled with leftist ideologues. He is part of academia, and sound like an ideologue, but not a left-wing one though. I'd comment on his study if it did not cost 42 €. I remember his study... not that he's a blog writer. Okay, lets play. Say we drop all sanctions. Will Iran change their behaviors?
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