dusa
Ye Olde King of OT
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Post by dusa on Aug 18, 2019 21:58:18 GMT -5
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Aug 19, 2019 8:42:09 GMT -5
You guys are gonna get a lot of traction on this 'secret squirrel' business then. I'm now not allowed to talk about, among other things, Impeachment, Trump, the cell phone thing, the election, anything in congress, anything to do with the boarder, it's pretty extensive. Woah that's pretty harsh. What happened to the land of the free and the 1rst ammendment  . Good luck with that, take it as an occasion to focus on hobbies instead of politics. |
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Aug 19, 2019 9:55:22 GMT -5
Fucking read The Godfather, Whem. I have. Thanks. |
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Aug 19, 2019 9:57:52 GMT -5
Why do gangs/cartel exists? What's this kind of question? Are you asking me for a brief answer? Or for some long, detailed answer that goes deep into the history of gangs and cartels in the Americas? Or should I just say “Because the monies!!!” and not explain why some of the richest place on earth don't have any gangs, how some very poor places don't have any gangs either, etc? It is a very complex question and answer. But, part of it, is extracting money from the population. Our cities are loaded with the opportunities due to various social reasons and the ease of corruption. |
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Aug 19, 2019 10:05:20 GMT -5
Yeah... that legal guidance/policy is bunk. Discussing politics and the like inside/outside of your federal job is protected speech and is no where near violating the Hatch Act. This lawsuit should easily prevail. |
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Aug 19, 2019 13:22:15 GMT -5
But, part of it, is extracting money from the population. That's your point? Let's take your original statement. Clearly implies that “Money” is something that sets the US apart in their problems with gangs. But it's not. Every country in the world has money, except maybe North Korea or something. What were you trying to say with your “easiest answer”? |
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Aug 19, 2019 15:26:07 GMT -5
But, part of it, is extracting money from the population. That's your point? Let's take your original statement. Clearly implies that “Money” is something that sets the US apart in their problems with gangs. But it's not. Every country in the world has money, except maybe North Korea or something. What were you trying to say with your “easiest answer”? It's the easiest answer. Just look at any gangs/cartel/mafia/organized crime: Are they doing those actions for free? |
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Aug 19, 2019 15:38:37 GMT -5
If the answer is "money" then why do no other first world countries have the same problem? I mean, rich nations have more money right?
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Aug 19, 2019 15:45:54 GMT -5
Uh... I'm sure other first world countries has the same sort of problems.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Aug 19, 2019 16:02:27 GMT -5
Uh... I'm sure other first world countries has the same sort of problems. Uhhh, I'm pretty sure they don't have it on the same scale as the US, or even to the same ratio. unless you want to pivot from "gangs/cartels" to "organized crime," like I'm expecting you to. |
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Aug 19, 2019 16:10:42 GMT -5
Just look at any gangs/cartel/mafia/organized crime: Are they doing those actions for free? Just look at any gangs/cartel/mafia/organized crime: are they eating food? YES THEY ARE. Well, I guess we got the explanation for why the US has a violent crime problem, it's because of FOOD!!! (Switzerland has basically no violent organized crime, and they have more money per capita than the US. But you wouldn't know, because as you said, you don't know anything about Switzerland. Which did not stop you from telling me that you knew that US states were more different from each other than Swiss canton, because your feelings over actual facts!!!) |
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Aug 19, 2019 16:25:53 GMT -5
Just look at any gangs/cartel/mafia/organized crime: Are they doing those actions for free? Just look at any gangs/cartel/mafia/organized crime: are they eating food? YES THEY ARE. Well, I guess we got the explanation for why the US has a violent crime problem, it's because of FOOD!!! (Switzerland has basically no violent organized crime, and they have more money per capita than the US. But you wouldn't know, because as you said, you don't know anything about Switzerland. Which did not stop you from telling me that you knew that US states were more different from each other than Swiss canton, because your feelings over actual facts!!!) Way to misconstrue my point guys. Why do we do things that we do? The reasons we have gang violence (or other organized crimes for that matter), in part, is money. Most of that is illicitly gained. If you're arguing otherwise, then what exactly do you think contributes to the violence? My original point, was to focus on the reasons why people gang bang, join cartels or the mafia. There are plethora of reasons. |
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Aug 19, 2019 16:50:34 GMT -5
No it wasn't. Don't gaslight us or move the goalpost whem.
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dusa
Ye Olde King of OT
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Post by dusa on Aug 19, 2019 17:24:59 GMT -5
Barr keeps on being shocked that the stuff people have been telling the news about for years (staffing, overtime, augmentation) has actually been happening under his watch without him knowing about it...
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Aug 19, 2019 17:58:27 GMT -5
Just look at any gangs/cartel/mafia/organized crime: are they eating food? YES THEY ARE. Well, I guess we got the explanation for why the US has a violent crime problem, it's because of FOOD!!! (Switzerland has basically no violent organized crime, and they have more money per capita than the US. But you wouldn't know, because as you said, you don't know anything about Switzerland. Which did not stop you from telling me that you knew that US states were more different from each other than Swiss canton, because your feelings over actual facts!!!) Way to misconstrue my point guys. Why do we do things that we do? The reasons we have gang violence (or other organized crimes for that matter), in part, is money. Most of that is illicitly gained. If you're arguing otherwise, then what exactly do you think contributes to the violence? My original point, was to focus on the reasons why people gang bang, join cartels or the mafia. There are plethora of reasons. Your original statement: “A better question: why do we have such problems with gang/organized crime compared to the rest of the world?” Emphasis mine. Explain now the emphasized part, if you can. |
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