US and NA Politics (General)

[Emblematic Wolfblade]

Aug 13, 2020 11:48:54 GMT -5 semipotentwalrus said:

Where's the Qanon equivalent in the democratic party?

Either Antifa, or "SJWs" duh.

[Disciple of Fate]

Aug 13, 2020 11:42:52 GMT -5 whemblycthulhu said:

I ask because the party you support hasn't kicked her out yet. There is a difference between crazy, which the GoP has a lot of and QAnon level, which is downright fostering domestic terrorism as said by US intelligence agencies.

The party doesn't have a mechanism to "kick them out" in the way you're alluding to. Blame the GA primary voters for this.

Let me rephrase this, why hasn't the entire party disavowed her and excluded her? I'm hearing they even want this cook on committees.

Democrats might have crazy people, but nowhere near part of a movement like that.

You just know that I'll disagree with you on this one.

I would love to hear which Democrat is on equal level as someone part of a movement fostering domestic terrorism according to the FBI.

Rice has no political experience really, she is a bureaucrat, which isn't a bad thing, but it might not worl. Warren is old, white and perceived as too far left by some. Harris makes sense. Her AG term might only damage her to the left wing, but they won't vote for Trump anyway. While she might have done badly in the primary, she was the only one in the primary checking those boxes. Not many skeletons coming out of that closet anymore after the primary, as opposed to say Rice.

Kamala has plenty of skeletons coming... almost Hillary Clinton-esque.

It's sad that Biden was cornered due to Identity politics. If he truly wanted to win, he'd select Bernie Sanders as his VP as Sanders was one of the few candidate that encouraged youth enthusiasm.

In the General election, I'm not sure that the "Not Trump" is enough. We'll see....

Well the same can then be said of Rice, Harris for the most part is a known and tested quantity. Have there even been any polls amongst voters looking at Rice, not as far as I know.

As for Sanders, too vocal and present I guess, would he even compromise for a VP slot? Again though, same as Warren, too old and white and not adding anything to the table really. If 'not Trump' isn't enough, than the US really deserves where it is going.

[Disciple of Fate]

Aug 13, 2020 11:49:59 GMT -5 Emblematic Wolfblade said:

Aug 13, 2020 11:48:54 GMT -5 semipotentwalrus said:

Where's the Qanon equivalent in the democratic party?

Either Antifa, or "SJWs" duh.

But the FBI disagrees with that so.

[Emblematic Wolfblade]

Aug 13, 2020 11:54:55 GMT -5 Disciple of Fate said:

Aug 13, 2020 11:49:59 GMT -5 Emblematic Wolfblade said:

Either Antifa, or "SJWs" duh.

But the FBI disagrees with that so.

I know, it was sarcasm, but that's what trumptards and despicable people always default to their example of "equally bad".

[Disciple of Fate]

Aug 13, 2020 12:08:19 GMT -5 Emblematic Wolfblade said:

Aug 13, 2020 11:54:55 GMT -5 Disciple of Fate said:

But the FBI disagrees with that so.

I know, it was sarcasm, but that's what trumptards and despicable people always default to their example of "equally bad".

I know you're being sarcastic, its more of a preemptive strike against the latter part of your sentence.

[Emblematic Wolfblade]

Trump Just Admitted He's Sabotaging the USPS to Screw Up the Election

I'm shocked that republicans aren't outraged over this. Who would have thought they'd be ok with voter suppression after years and years of trying to find new ways to suppress voters?

[tannhauser42]

Aug 13, 2020 14:56:31 GMT -5 Emblematic Wolfblade said:

Trump Just Admitted He's Sabotaging the USPS to Screw Up the Election

I'm shocked that republicans aren't outraged over this. Who would have thought they'd be ok with voter suppression after years and years of trying to find new ways to suppress voters?

"If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”

[steelmage99]

Is anybody willing to suggest that, had the party affiliations been reversed, the Right wouldn't IMMEDIATELY claim, that such a statement was clear evidence of an imminent coup, and a serious actionable death threat towards the Republican candidate?

[Disciple of Fate]

Republicans quick out of the gate with their new birtherism against Harris. What a bunch of racist dickbags.

[whemblycthulhu]

Aug 14, 2020 1:16:31 GMT -5 Disciple of Fate said:

Republicans quick out of the gate with their new birtherism against Harris. What a bunch of racist dickbags.

It's the same schtick when Ted Cruz was running for President.

It's all nonsense on stilts.

Harris' parents were lawful residents at the time of her birth, which under the actual holding of Wong Kim Ark and the 14th amendment, she's literally a natural-born citizen.  Full stop.

[Disciple of Fate]

Its not the same shtick though, because what happened to Obama was much much worse than it was for Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz's whole family history wasn't doubted and they didn't claim his birthcertificate was fake for years. Cruz himself took hardcore anti-Obama birthers on board in his presidential run. So no, its not the same at all. Cruz gleefully cooperated with people involved in that movement only for it to very briefly backfire on him.

[Emblematic Wolfblade]

I love that sick attempt to avoid the question of "who are the democrats QAnon"

Real smooth despic, real smooth.

[whemblycthulhu]

Aug 14, 2020 11:16:09 GMT -5 Disciple of Fate said:

Its not the same shtick though, because what happened to Obama was much much worse than it was for Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz's whole family history wasn't doubted and they didn't claim his birthcertificate was fake for years. Cruz himself took hardcore anti-Obama birthers on board in his presidential run. So no, its not the same at all. Cruz gleefully cooperated with people involved in that movement only for it to very briefly backfire on him.

I didn't bring up Obama.  But yes, Obama was maligned far worse than Cruz, but he wasn't unscathed either:
www.salon.com/2016/01/22/ted_cruz_has_a_very_real_birther_problem_the_law_is_not_settled_but_the_history_is/


Hell, even McCain went through with it:
www.nbcnews.com/id/23415028/ns/nbc_nightly_news_with_brian_williams/t/mccains-citizenship-called-question/#.Xza-fNVKipo


Literally, this madness has infected both side of the partisan aisle over the years.

[whemblycthulhu]

I know PedoAnalLover is trying to speak coherently, but I'm only hearing gibberish.

[Emblematic Wolfblade]

Case in point. He knows there is no group similar to Qanon in the democrat party, but doesn't want to admit that republicans are objectively worse.

And it's not even like it'd make it harder for him to vote for trump, he's already decided that.

(Oh, and congrats on your father dying. If he's half as awful as you, him dying has made the world a better place.)