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Post by whemblycthulhu on Oct 27, 2020 12:13:02 GMT -5
Well, that's the first time in 155 years that a SCOTUS nominee has been confirmed without a single vote from the opposition. Clearly this precedent means she should step back and wait for the results of the election, right. Because I'm told by a reliable source that precedents are really important. Please, for the sake of the rest of us, get these nutjobs out and never forget what the Republicans have done. Not just Trump, but GWB, GHWB and Holy Saint Reagan. Drag them screaming and snivelling into the light and force them to choose openly between power or democracy. Do you US civics bro? To answer your question... no.
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Oct 27, 2020 12:17:29 GMT -5
FYI, the natural conclusion for GOP behaviour is outright political violence. Have you recently escaped being stuck underneath a rock all this time? What the fuck do you call the riots we've been seeing over the last year? An amish festival? You mean that Pelosi won't sign any additional covid stimulus because she's not getting her pet project? That's good faith? LOL. LOL. Imma repeat Obama here: Elections have consequences you know... I'll repeat what I said to wally... do you US civics bro?Come back to me when we start assinating our political critters. Oh wait: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shootingMaybe you're onto something here... who's the one escalating the violence here?
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Oct 27, 2020 12:25:58 GMT -5
Huh. It's like he missed the plot to kidnap Whitmer. Or the Charlottesville killing. Typical despic. He's a prime example of why America is on the verge of collapsing and he's cheering it on.
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Post by whemblycthulhu on Oct 27, 2020 12:29:25 GMT -5
The plotters hated Trump who has more in common with anarchist and even (gasp!) anitfa than anything else.
You're perfect example why the norms we've enjoyed are eroding. Go back to day dreaming whatever pedos does.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Oct 27, 2020 12:31:50 GMT -5
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Oct 27, 2020 12:33:55 GMT -5
Wow. That sure was some sort of sidestep to ignore how right-wing terrorism is the most common form of terrorism in the US. Well, that's what you expect from someone with an orange ring around their mouth. Is anyone still unsure that the US wouldn't be better off without people like despic?
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Post by hatoflords on Oct 27, 2020 12:39:21 GMT -5
Well, that's the first time in 155 years that a SCOTUS nominee has been confirmed without a single vote from the opposition. Clearly this precedent means she should step back and wait for the results of the election, right. Because I'm told by a reliable source that precedents are really important. I actually got curious and maybe? At the very least it's the first purely partisan vote in a long while. Gorsuch got three Democratic yeas and Kavanaugh got one and they were the most bitter appointments in terms of actual vote break down, along with Samuel Alito's vote 05 (where he only got 4 Democrats to vote yea).
Pretty much every SCOTUS nominee who advanced before them got at least token bipartisan support going back to at least Sherman Minton in 1949 (who got on the court but I can't find a break down of the vote on him in a short time and I'm not that dedicated). There aren't any others who advanced in the past 100 years without technical bipartisan approval. Minton got 45 yeas and the 81st senate had 45 Democrats. His vote is weird though cause he only got 16 downvotes but there were 96 members of the Senate in the 81st. Not exactly sure why a third of the senate didn't vote at all. Maybe related to Minton's approval for FDR's court packing scheme when he was a Senator but it must not have bothered people that much cause they didn't vote no and if all the people who didn't vote voted no he wouldn't have advanced.
There's a few failures that were party line (John Parker for example), but all the others I can find votes for did have at least 1 member of the other party vote yea going back at least 100 years with Minton as the sole possible exception. At the same time though, token bipartisanship isn't really bipartisanship in my book. SCOTUS court picks have been getting more bitter ever since the 80s, largely because of Roe v. Wade and the advancement of the New Right and the Federalist Society under Reagan.
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Post by CommieCanUCK on Oct 27, 2020 12:50:20 GMT -5
I was talking direct political violence against actual political actors, not "Stop systemic racism NOW!' demonstrations, but Projectors Gonna Project, I guess
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Post by semipotentwalrus on Oct 27, 2020 14:35:38 GMT -5
Well, that's the first time in 155 years that a SCOTUS nominee has been confirmed without a single vote from the opposition. Clearly this precedent means she should step back and wait for the results of the election, right. Because I'm told by a reliable source that precedents are really important. Please, for the sake of the rest of us, get these nutjobs out and never forget what the Republicans have done. Not just Trump, but GWB, GHWB and Holy Saint Reagan. Drag them screaming and snivelling into the light and force them to choose openly between power or democracy. Do you US civics bro?
I only have multiple degrees in political science, but what do I know, right? Maybe you can explain why one precedent, "no SCOTUS nominee has been confirmed when the Senate was in opposition to the President since the 1800s"*, matters but another, "no SCOTUS nominee has been confirmed without a single opposition vote for 151** years", doesn't matter one bit.
I'll tell you why: because it's convenient for your political party.
FWIW the V-dem institute just released a report showing what everyone already knew: the GOP are going authoritarian, not the Democratic party.
*Which is, as I've mentioned earlier, completely ignoring Kennedy's 97-0 confirmation less than a year before an election under those very circumstances, but if I had to object to every lie your party is propagating I'd never get out of here.
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Post by CommieCanUCK on Oct 27, 2020 16:09:56 GMT -5
Am I so out of touch? No, it's the political scientists that are wrong
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Oct 27, 2020 16:30:02 GMT -5
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Oct 27, 2020 16:39:53 GMT -5
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Post by CommieCanUCK on Oct 27, 2020 17:10:01 GMT -5
It's all justified, all of it, all the deaths, the lies, the corruption, the graft, the diminishing of America, the fascism, all justified, because the liberals were mean to a smirking kid.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2020 17:28:53 GMT -5
The plotters hated Trump who has more in common with anarchist and even (gasp!) anitfa than anything else. This is actually a lie. Other than the one individual, several of the persons arrested in connection with this had long running pro-Trump youtube and twitter accounts. If you'd like, I can even give you pictures of at least one of them in his Trump 2020 hat.
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Post by tannhauser42 on Oct 27, 2020 17:35:55 GMT -5
. If you'd like, I can even give you pictures of at least one of them in his Trump 2020 hat. Ye gods, my eyes! What did I do to you to deserve that?
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