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Post by hatoflords on Jan 11, 2021 22:28:03 GMT -5
There seems to be a rift in the deplorable community. Some are claiming she (and the rest of the terrorists) were antifa plants. Others are trying to elevate her to sainthood. Good.
Let the right eat itself.
It's why the impeachment push is smart on basically all levels. The indictment will of course fail, but it's the Republicans who are really going to lose because of it, not the Democrats. Some Republicans have to run in Blue/Purple states next year and anyone with a brain knows Trump's PR can only go downhill. If the Democrats get some to split, the party will fight itself more. If it doesn't split, it'll still fight itself more. It's a win-win and Democrats can rally their own base around a complete condemnation of Trump and the party that supports him. And Trump actually deserves it. If he was too stupid to think an angry mob would riot after he incited them to riot he's completely unfit for the presidency.
In other news, I feel like basically the entire weekend can be wonderfully surmised as 'biting the hand that feeds you.' It's been amusing and baffling watching various conservative spaces bitch and moan about corporate censorship and how the left is laughing now but won't be latter. I was actually impressed to find more than a few people with enough brain cells to note that Republicans are the ones who made corporate America an unchecked power in the first place. Democrats aren't the ones who fought for unlimited corporate money in politics. Democrats didn't fight for corporations can refuse service however they want. Democrats didn't oppose net neutrality. Democrats haven't spent the last 20 years calling any attempt to reign in big business communism and unamerican.
That was Republicans and their mouth pieces the entire way.
They certainly aren't the ones pushing to revoke Section 230. It's amazing how illiterate these people are. I can't think of a better word for it. They're so stuck in their little world they're completely incapable of seeing it's the world Republicans and Conservatives made.
And frankly, we should all probably be thankful Parler is gone if for no other reason than that their security was god awful. A couple internet sleuths did a public scrap of the website before it went down and found there was no security at all. Posts and videos that people deleted were never actually deleted. You could rip someone's driver's license right off the website! The site was running of free trial versions of software. The whole place was a disaster waiting to happen and not just because of all the violent sycophants and racists that happened to be there.
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Post by A Town Called Malus on Jan 11, 2021 22:32:47 GMT -5
I mean, that would require that parler was ever intended to be anything but a digital information harvesting scheme.
And when it is set up by the people behind Cambridge Analytica, it is obvious that it wasn't.
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Post by hatoflords on Jan 11, 2021 22:36:04 GMT -5
A disaster waiting to happen, that's what I said XD
I'd honestly be optimistic that maybe now we can get some Republicans on board with getting the corporate world under control and establishing a a system of checks and balances for society rather than just the government, but if anything is showcased by this mess it's that there's no coherence to present day conservatism. They'll bitch and moan about corporations now and virulently defend them tomorrow if a Democrat so much as talks about institutiing any sort of standard.
I think the unavoidable reality is that the Republicans have gone so deep into their delusions, it doesn't even matter if the politicians back off or change course. The base is incapable of leaving the tiny little world of grievance and misappropriated victimhood.
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Jan 12, 2021 6:27:34 GMT -5
They'll bitch and moan about corporations now and virulently defend them tomorrow if a Democrat so much as talks about institutiing any sort of standard. That's not true. We conservative have always been at war with Eastasia.
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Post by tannhauser42 on Jan 12, 2021 8:58:28 GMT -5
Yeah, it's just so delicious to see conservatives whine about "cancel culture" now, when they've been the ones with the power to cancel others for centuries. Galileo, Martin Luther, Martin Luther King Jr, victims of the inquisition, victims of the Hollywood blacklist, and so many more would like a word about getting cancelled because conservatives in power didn't like them.
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Post by hatoflords on Jan 12, 2021 11:44:22 GMT -5
We don't even have to go back centuries. Republicans are the ones who advocated the model that we shouldn't do with the law what we can do with our wallets. Don't like a business? Don't do business with them. The past few years have literally been people doing exactly what Republicans wanted, and they're butt hurt because it was never really about what protections people deserved. It was about their ability to dictate the social order. They wanted to have cake and eat it too.
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Post by CommieCanUCK on Jan 12, 2021 12:45:37 GMT -5
There seems to be a rift in the deplorable community. Some are claiming she (and the rest of the terrorists) were antifa plants. Others are trying to elevate her to sainthood. Good. Let the right eat itself. It's why the impeachment push is smart on basically all levels. The indictment will of course fail, but it's the Republicans who are really going to lose because of it, not the Democrats. Some Republicans have to run in Blue/Purple states next year and anyone with a brain knows Trump's PR can only go downhill. If the Democrats get some to split, the party will fight itself more. If it doesn't split, it'll still fight itself more. It's a win-win and Democrats can rally their own base around a complete condemnation of Trump and the party that supports him. And Trump actually deserves it. If he was too stupid to think an angry mob would riot after he incited them to riot he's completely unfit for the presidency.
In other news, I feel like basically the entire weekend can be wonderfully surmised as 'biting the hand that feeds you.' It's been amusing and baffling watching various conservative spaces bitch and moan about corporate censorship and how the left is laughing now but won't be latter. I was actually impressed to find more than a few people with enough brain cells to note that Republicans are the ones who made corporate America an unchecked power in the first place. Democrats aren't the ones who fought for unlimited corporate money in politics. Democrats didn't fight for corporations can refuse service however they want. Democrats didn't oppose net neutrality. Democrats haven't spent the last 20 years calling any attempt to reign in big business communism and unamerican. That was Republicans and their mouth pieces the entire way.
They certainly aren't the ones pushing to revoke Section 230. It's amazing how illiterate these people are. I can't think of a better word for it. They're so stuck in their little world they're completely incapable of seeing it's the world Republicans and Conservatives made. And frankly, we should all probably be thankful Parler is gone if for no other reason than that their security was god awful. A couple internet sleuths did a public scrap of the website before it went down and found there was no security at all. Posts and videos that people deleted were never actually deleted. You could rip someone's driver's license right off the website! The site was running of free trial versions of software. The whole place was a disaster waiting to happen and not just because of all the violent sycophants and racists that happened to be there.
I'd like for this to be true, but I think nothing is going to change in the long term. The right will fight itself until one faction gains dominance, then the rest of the chuds will immediately fall in line and act like they never ever thought differently. As Not HMBC said, Orwell.
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Post by tannhauser42 on Jan 12, 2021 14:46:39 GMT -5
As much as the right will fight against itself, they'll still march lockstep to the polls to vote against Democrats because abortion, gun control*, LGBT rights, religious rights, etc. *Hilariously, the swipe function on my phone initially entered that as fun control. I almost left that in.
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Post by steelmage99 on Jan 12, 2021 15:18:34 GMT -5
We don't even have to go back centuries. Republicans are the ones who advocated the model that we shouldn't do with the law what we can do with our wallets. Don't like a business? Don't do business with them. The past few years have literally been people doing exactly what Republicans wanted, and they're butt hurt because it was never really about what protections people deserved. It was about their ability to dictate the social order. They wanted to have cake and eat it too. Ah, yes - Cancel Culture. The evil leftist ploy. Boycott anybody who disagrees with you, right? Like boycott Fox News ........or NASCar ........or the NFL ........or Yeti-coolers ........or the Republican Party ........or the USPS ........or the UN ........or the WHO ........or Kathy Griffin ........or Robert De Niro ........or the Dixie Chicks ........need I go on? "Cancel Culture" is the name the Right has given, to what is otherwise described as "free market forces" when the Right does it.
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Jan 12, 2021 16:43:22 GMT -5
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Jan 12, 2021 17:13:13 GMT -5
A not insignificant part of me wonders if he was part of the insurrection. We know he's stupid... but is he that stupid? I personally wouldn't rule it out.
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Jan 12, 2021 17:20:00 GMT -5
A not insignificant part of me wonders if he was part of the insurrection. He wasn't. He is a republican not a trumpian. He doesn't care for Trump he cares for implementing republican policies, at any cost, including the most immoral things Trump could do. So, he isn't delusional and neither believe that Trump won, nor believe that a coup could have worked. If it had worked, though, he would definitely have supported it afterward. Because "policies"!
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Post by hatoflords on Jan 12, 2021 22:02:30 GMT -5
Apparently McConnell is pissed, according to 'sources.' I'll believe it when he votes to convict and even then he's not going to get much credit for it.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Jan 12, 2021 22:04:22 GMT -5
Supposedly he is in favor of impeaching trump. I want to hope it's true, but I don't really believe it.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Jan 12, 2021 22:54:43 GMT -5
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