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Post by dabbler on Feb 23, 2021 16:11:22 GMT -5
Grey Templar I'd bet
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Feb 23, 2021 16:30:52 GMT -5
Grey Templar has an account there under his own name no?
This is a great first test for RiTides, can't really rhyme the rule on not inciting violence with the mentality that dads should beat their kids.
Although the Palestine thread really seems like a winner too...
Woof...
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Post by dabbler on Feb 23, 2021 16:43:37 GMT -5
Grey Templar has an account there under his own name no? This is a great first test for RiTides, can't really rhyme the rule on not inciting violence with the mentality that dads should beat their kids. Although the Palestine thread really seems like a winner too... Woof... Ah maybe, I haven't really spent much time there, still tossing up if I'll make an account or not. Waiting to see if it shakes out or if it collapses
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Feb 23, 2021 17:01:43 GMT -5
So, is Grey Emminence over on ETC Whembly? Also, holy shit. they're probably not despic, but they are something else... Grey Templar has an account there under his own name no? This is a great first test for RiTides, can't really rhyme the rule on not inciting violence with the mentality that dads should beat their kids. Although the Palestine thread really seems like a winner too... Woof... The "trans people are just mentally ill" thread they made was something... I suspect this is the first major hurdle and RiTides will most likely fail based on his willingness to let them and prof tann stick around after explicitly violating their rules iirc. Also, what forum that "wants" "serious" discussion doesn't have a rule against bigotry?
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Feb 23, 2021 17:40:02 GMT -5
One where the mod isn’t convinced that this is bigotry?
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Feb 23, 2021 17:41:57 GMT -5
One where the mod isn’t convinced that this is bigotry? No, go take a look at their rules.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Feb 23, 2021 18:00:01 GMT -5
Its the problem of perception, to appear neutral on the topic you have to allow discussion. To allow discussion, you are implicitly allowing people to wonder if they even deserve to be treated equally for just wanting to be themselves.
If you would make "they don't have the right to exist" about *insert race here* or *insert religion that isn't Islam here*, that shit would get shut down hard, no questions asked.
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Feb 23, 2021 18:03:10 GMT -5
One where the mod isn’t convinced that this is bigotry? No, go take a look at their rules. I did. I don’t see what you’re describing. A rule against inciting violence?
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CommieCanUCK
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Post by CommieCanUCK on Feb 23, 2021 18:04:59 GMT -5
TBF to Tides, he did nuke the "man can't be a woman" thread because of, well, duh, but he didn't ban the topic. The new thread is going sorta okay, considering.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Feb 23, 2021 18:09:47 GMT -5
Ah maybe, I haven't really spent much time there, still tossing up if I'll make an account or not. Waiting to see if it shakes out or if it collapses It feels like Dakka before the ban, just constant sniping and the inability to do anything but try to ignore *those* people.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Feb 23, 2021 18:13:00 GMT -5
TBF to Tides, he did nuke the "man can't be a woman" thread because of, well, duh, but he didn't ban the topic. The new thread is going sorta okay, considering. He nuked the topic because of the derailing, but he clearly stated he doesn't want to moderate the content. Reads to me like the problem was the hostility, not the garbage spouted about women having to be baby factories to count as women and that sort of abhorrent shit.
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Post by CommieCanUCK on Feb 23, 2021 18:35:31 GMT -5
TBF to Tides, he did nuke the "man can't be a woman" thread because of, well, duh, but he didn't ban the topic. The new thread is going sorta okay, considering. He nuked the topic because of the derailing, but he clearly stated he doesn't want to moderate the content. Reads to me like the problem was the hostility, not the garbage spouted about women having to be baby factories to count as women and that sort of abhorrent shit Abhorrent, true, but they're trying to justify their bigotry with science-y sounding shit. By being willing to make statements and mostly stick to them, it is possible to have an actual discussion. It is possible this person has really never considered how gender and sex actually differs, and just parrots reactionary talking points. I'm not holding my breath, but it is *possible*. <Insert 'today's 10,000' xkcd comic here>
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Feb 23, 2021 18:54:45 GMT -5
I mean, he might just be a troll? The things he is spouting are so outrageous and out there (I don't think hitting children is a reactionary talking point, unlike the transgender discussion) that I have some trouble believing this is for real.
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Post by CommieCanUCK on Feb 23, 2021 19:17:32 GMT -5
Toxic traditional family values is very much a reactionary talking point. Shit like "Kids need a dad to beat sense into them", and "I got the belt and I turned out fine" is common bullshit in my experience.
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Feb 23, 2021 19:34:17 GMT -5
I think it was about five years ago that there was a wave of “...and I turned out fine” or similar memes normalizing abuse. It’s part of the culture war now.
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