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Post by maddocgrotsnik on Feb 19, 2023 4:46:41 GMT -5
How do!
So with Nicola “Wee Jimmy Krankie” Sturgeon stepping down from First Minister of Scotland, pundits are positing this might be a chance for Labour to regain ground and seats. Not just in Holyrood, but Westminster.
Given just how hard the Tories have fucked, well, *waves expansively* everything in the past few years, thanks to the ERG’s party brain drain, if Labour can start taking Scottish seats back, Westminster might start looking very different.
Thoughts?
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Post by nfe on Feb 20, 2023 1:03:30 GMT -5
How do! So with Nicola “Wee Jimmy Krankie” Sturgeon stepping down from First Minister of Scotland, pundits are positing this might be a chance for Labour to regain ground and seats. Not just in Holyrood, but Westminster. Given just how hard the Tories have fucked, well, *waves expansively* everything in the past few years, thanks to the ERG’s party brain drain, if Labour can start taking Scottish seats back, Westminster might start looking very different. Thoughts? Why are you so attached to mocking a woman's appearance? That aside, I think Strugeon's resignation might have been a good moment for Labour to push back a bit, and the SNP have dropped a bit in the polls, but the only parties to see an uptick are the Lib Dems and the Greens, with the Greens the biggest winners. I imagine Labour have made an error sending Ian Murray around all the Sunday politics shows taking the hardest unionist line possible on the same day Starmer tries to win voters over from an independence party... Going forward, I think the SNP will lose a lot of their soft voters, especially older women, who just think Sturgeon is very personable and competent. Probably loads of whom are married to staunch unionists! We'll see how aggressively Ash Degan manages to stoke the culture war in an election campaign. If her or Kate Forbes win I think you'll see a lot of flights to the Greens, and probably to the Lib Dems amongst generally progressive voters who aren't sold on independence but felt they aligned with the SNP on most other policies. I think Yousaf will win, though.
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Post by maddocgrotsnik on Feb 20, 2023 2:28:53 GMT -5
It’s a political nickname. Like BogJob, Dishy Rishi. Thick Lizzy etc.
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Post by nfe on Feb 20, 2023 2:40:37 GMT -5
It’s a political nickname. Like BogJob, Dishy Rishi. Thick Lizzy etc. It's certainly comparably infantile to two of those*, but it's explicitly an insult to her appearance which I'd have hoped was beneath you. Alas. *I'd suggest anyone claiming Dishy Rishi is similar in use or connotation to Jimmy Krankie or Thick Lizzy - the latter entirely invented by you, I think - has no business calling anyone thick.
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Post by maddocgrotsnik on Feb 20, 2023 2:46:10 GMT -5
Thing is….I didn’t invent any of them. They’re all from the U.K. press. Where satire lives and breathes.
There may be others about Rishi Sunak, but I’m yet to encounter them.
Other than Thick Lizzy (on account Lizz Truss is thick as absolute fuck. So thick even Terry Fuckwitt, the unintelligent cartoon character, would consider her thick) the rest are just nicknames.
BogJob stems from Tory supporters trying to get folk to call the lying sack of shit “BoJo”. Wee Jimmy Krankie is a beloved TV star of many an early middle age man’s youth, and. Nicola Sturgeon has a decent resemblance to her.
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Post by maddocgrotsnik on Feb 20, 2023 2:54:33 GMT -5
Thick Lizzy was literally everywhere after her initial Parliamentary tanked the economy. You are aware a newspaper compared her to a head of lettuce? A head of lettuce which outlasted her tenure? That even Das Daily Heil and The Scum started using? Only the Daily Express, long, long since divorced from reality tried to put a brave face on it?
Do you understand the British approach to satire and piss taking out the powerful and incompetent?
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Post by nfe on Feb 20, 2023 3:11:34 GMT -5
This is a through the looking glass defence of something you obviously know is shitty but can't bring yourself to walk back.
Sturgeon gets called Jimmy Krankie because she looks a tiny bit like him and because his defining comedy characteristics are being weird looking, annoying, stupid, and aggressively and stereotypically Scottish. It is not some affectionate nickname because people have fond memories of the Krankies. Jesus wept.
I've never seen BogJob or Thick Lizzy in the press. They might be in common usage amongst very smart political commentators on social media?
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Post by maddocgrotsnik on Feb 20, 2023 3:13:07 GMT -5
Jimmy Krankie isn’t a boy. Jimmy Krankie is a short woman.
Maybe try reading Private Eye.
and referring to the powerful by silly nicknames is hardly “shitty behaviour”.
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Post by nfe on Feb 20, 2023 3:33:18 GMT -5
Jimmy Krankie is a boy. Jannette Tough is a woman. Come on, man. Have a clue.
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Post by maddocgrotsnik on Feb 20, 2023 3:50:47 GMT -5
Uh-huh. Sure.
You are aware it’s the same person? 😂😂
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Post by nfe on Feb 20, 2023 4:00:51 GMT -5
Wait till you discover pantomimes, man.
Anyway, you feel free to direct me to all those Thick Lizzys and BogJobs in Private Eye when you've a minute, and in the meantime you keep making fun of a woman's appearance like a sophisticated satirist.
Back when someone has something to say about political developments beyond 'this woman looks funny and this chick is stupid' because I'm struggling to catch the nuanced analysis between the lines.
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Post by maddocgrotsnik on Feb 20, 2023 4:08:25 GMT -5
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Post by nfe on Feb 20, 2023 5:37:43 GMT -5
Way to stick to the substantive points...
One is paywalled but the other is quoting Kathy Burke on twitter. So when I said maybe it was commonplace on social media...
Come on, man. Give yourself peace.
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Post by maddocgrotsnik on Feb 20, 2023 5:55:32 GMT -5
You asked for citation, I cited.
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Post by Haighus on Feb 20, 2023 6:17:36 GMT -5
I agree with nfe re. names. Anyway, on-topic. How do! So with Nicola “Wee Jimmy Krankie” Sturgeon stepping down from First Minister of Scotland, pundits are positing this might be a chance for Labour to regain ground and seats. Not just in Holyrood, but Westminster. Given just how hard the Tories have fucked, well, *waves expansively* everything in the past few years, thanks to the ERG’s party brain drain, if Labour can start taking Scottish seats back, Westminster might start looking very different. Thoughts? Why are you so attached to mocking a woman's appearance? That aside, I think Strugeon's resignation might have been a good moment for Labour to push back a bit, and the SNP have dropped a bit in the polls, but the only parties to see an uptick are the Lib Dems and the Greens, with the Greens the biggest winners. I imagine Labour have made an error sending Ian Murray around all the Sunday politics shows taking the hardest unionist line possible on the same day Starmer tries to win voters over from an independence party... Going forward, I think the SNP will lose a lot of their soft voters, especially older women, who just think Sturgeon is very personable and competent. Probably loads of whom are married to staunch unionists! We'll see how aggressively Ash Degan manages to stoke the culture war in an election campaign. If her or Kate Forbes win I think you'll see a lot of flights to the Greens, and probably to the Lib Dems amongst generally progressive voters who aren't sold on independence but felt they aligned with the SNP on most other policies. I think Yousaf will win, though. This feels likely. I don't think Labour under Starmer is going to make significant in-roads.
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