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Post by easye on Mar 16, 2023 10:30:23 GMT -5
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Post by Haighus on Mar 16, 2023 11:13:59 GMT -5
Bit of a weird one.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Mar 16, 2023 13:01:57 GMT -5
Besides redrawing lines around some very red districts, what would actually change?
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Post by Haighus on Mar 16, 2023 13:27:03 GMT -5
Well, I reckon just about every social science will have researchers eyeing this as a potential future natural experiment- a (relatively) large population changing from blue to red state with little else changing? Lots of juicy research to be had there.
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Post by easye on Mar 16, 2023 14:00:55 GMT -5
Besides redrawing lines around some very red districts, what would actually change? State boundaries, state jurisdictions, court jurisdictions, tax bases, numbers of Reps in Congress, Federal funding that is Population based.... pretty much a lot would change.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Mar 16, 2023 16:15:43 GMT -5
Besides redrawing lines around some very red districts, what would actually change? State boundaries, state jurisdictions, court jurisdictions, tax bases, numbers of Reps in Congress, Federal funding that is Population based.... pretty much a lot would change. Sure, but in the big picture, were just pushing some numbers around without really changin them? The amount of reps shouldn't increase or decrease overall, federal funding would leave Idaho with a little more and Oregon with a little less (most likely given the economic conditions). The main difference I would say is that the citizens would go from a blue state to a red state, helping Dems in Oregon on the state level. What's not to like for team blue?
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Post by adurot on Mar 16, 2023 16:32:41 GMT -5
Pushing numbers around and how they’re grouped can change A Lot, that’s the entire issue with gerrymandering. It’s possible moving the population over pushes the red state up a representative threshold, and the blue state down one, resulting in a net gain for the republicans.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Mar 16, 2023 17:03:28 GMT -5
Pushing numbers around and how they’re grouped can change A Lot, that’s the entire issue with gerrymandering. It’s possible moving the population over pushes the red state up a representative threshold, and the blue state down one, resulting in a net gain for the republicans. but this isn't exactly gerrymandering, these would be already red counties switching to the other side of the border. The assumption here being that the rep treshold matters little, as it is highly likely the rep in that area under Oregon is already a republican? So the changing treshold just moves a red rep around, without changing the final outcome.
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Post by skyth on Mar 16, 2023 19:07:59 GMT -5
It changes the Electoral College math though.
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Post by easye on Mar 17, 2023 14:50:40 GMT -5
Well, we might as well let Virginia re-absorb West Virginia again. It would raise West Virginia's median income!
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Mar 17, 2023 15:19:27 GMT -5
The EC math might indeed matter most here.
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Post by Peregrine on Mar 17, 2023 17:24:54 GMT -5
It changes the Electoral College math though.
Yep. And this is part of why they want it, EC votes are state-wide so moving population from a blue state into a red state helps with EC votes and offsets some of the demographic losses.
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Post by easye on May 8, 2024 15:11:35 GMT -5
A recent video that talks about this topic from PBS Newshour.....
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