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Post by hatoflords on Aug 8, 2020 8:33:18 GMT -5
You know even setting aside current politics that a pretty cool interview. I'm a bit disappointed there's a clear focus from the interviewer and kind of wish there were more probing questions and more in depth responses.
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Post by adurot on Aug 8, 2020 14:27:52 GMT -5
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Aug 9, 2020 14:58:39 GMT -5
It really depends on a vaccine. But the unipolar moment is shifting regardless, hegemony is unsustainable in the long run. Its been shifting a while now. That said, for us lucky enough to live in Europe, that shift will be worse for the US than us, while the EU might even benefit in the long run. Trump is only hastening this, but its happening in our lifetime nevertheless. Purely short term though. The Iraq War caused more deaths so far than the official toll for Covid-19, that was a single action taken by a president causing that. If a vaccine is effective and rolled out in 2021, Trump can do an equal amount of short term damage with 4 more years, he almost went at Iran. And lets face it, a decent chunk of the Covid-19 death toll is precisely because of Trump being president, so I feel that should count against him more than the virus itself... Getting rid of Trump might mean a better outcome for Europe, too. Look at what's happening in Poland with regard to LGBT protesters. Look at the rise of right wing ideologies throughout Europe. Trump is a powerful ally for them. Getting rid of him will save lives over there, too.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Aug 9, 2020 17:46:31 GMT -5
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Aug 10, 2020 0:38:44 GMT -5
Getting rid of Trump might mean a better outcome for Europe, too. Look at what's happening in Poland with regard to LGBT protesters. Look at the rise of right wing ideologies throughout Europe. Trump is a powerful ally for them. Getting rid of him will save lives over there, too. As flattering as it is to assume that from over here, unfortunately just as Trump is a symptom of the problem in the US, these problems in Europe have existed longer than Trump has been president. The PiS in Poland has been in power since 2015 and slowly working on subverting democracy (anti-lgbtq sentiment is quite big in Poland, not even his opponent had a pro stance so to speak). Orban in Hungary is a longer phenomenon, so is Boris Johnson and the pro Brexit crowd. The FN in France has had its strong ups and downs for decades. Support and the existense of Trump will likely actually damage their prospects, because he is so universally hated/thought of as incompetent. Like how Brexit quietly killed the idea that leaving the EU was a good idea. Similarly, the election of Trump made the EU more popular amongst Europeans. Also powerful ally might be overstated, I think only Farrage in the UK has any sort of real contact with him (unlike actual support from Putin for the far-right). Trump is too incompetent to do anything but shout stuff and the far right leaders here realize how toxic Trump is to the voting populations, which they need to expand in to get into power. The people who love Trump here already have only one party to vote for, the people who don't have a myriad of others. If we had to have a far-right US president, having one as incompetent as Trump was the best outcome. A smarter one might have done a lot more damage in the US and Europe.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Aug 10, 2020 7:29:42 GMT -5
I wonder how they could capture that orange glow and that which would be a chin on other people.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Aug 10, 2020 19:20:35 GMT -5
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Post by A Town Called Malus on Aug 10, 2020 21:00:23 GMT -5
That's disgusting.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Aug 10, 2020 21:56:35 GMT -5
Just remember: "iT's JuSt A fEw BaD aPpLeS" (and for anyone who didn't know, the full saying is "a few bad apples spoil the whole barrel.") Edit: For the record, the video is nearly 2 years old (dec 2018 iirc), but it's only just surfacing now.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Aug 11, 2020 1:02:32 GMT -5
So, it looks like those elitist liberals were got history wrong, and it wasn't the capture of Berlin or signing of surrender documents in Tokyo Bay that ended World War 2, but rather as Trump said the 1918 Spanish Flu 'probably ended' WWII and he knows more than all the generals so checkmate liberals!(His dementia seems to be accelerating.)
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Aug 11, 2020 2:43:00 GMT -5
Well, was the Spanish Flu able to time travel to plant the seeds of Axis destruction? I don't think this has anything to do with his mental state in particular, just his 'dumber than a rock'state.
As for that video, I hope everyone in that video was fired. The line of reasoning for all the people involved in that chain of events is incompetent at the least.
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Post by tannhauser42 on Aug 12, 2020 10:24:20 GMT -5
So, how about that VP pick? I haven't really paid much attention, so I don't know much about her. As far as I'm concerned, Biden could have picked Games Workshop's potato camera as his running mate and I would still vote for him over Trump.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Aug 12, 2020 11:28:42 GMT -5
So, how about that VP pick? I haven't really paid much attention, so I don't know much about her. As far as I'm concerned, Biden could have picked Games Workshop's potato camera as his running mate and I would still vote for him over Trump. I mean, when the choice is trump or Biden, the VP pick doesn't matter imo. It's like worrying about the wallpaper when your house is on fire. I personally don't like Harris, but it could be worse I guess.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Aug 12, 2020 12:10:08 GMT -5
The consensus seems to be that she was the expected safe pick. The left side of the party of course didn't prefer her and her own waffling on her term as AG in California isn't helping on that. But overall a pick that doesn't rock the boat and if polls remain steady that is exactly what Biden needs. However, given her last performance as a candidate I wonder if being VP will give her enough clout to actually secure the nomination next time.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Aug 12, 2020 12:31:38 GMT -5
I hope not. She's "tough on crime" which usually means "throw people in jail for minor offenses." Maybe she's changed, but I suspect not.
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