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Post by Disciple of Fate on Jan 20, 2021 17:55:34 GMT -5
Wait. Is she just a right wing antimasker or a full on Stop the Steal QAnon type? The answer to that is how you read this:
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Jan 20, 2021 17:56:14 GMT -5
Wait. Is she just a right wing antimasker or a full on Stop the Steal QAnon type? She's supported/retweeted the bullshit voter fraud claims in addition to being anti-mask. Aaaaand she's pushed Parler to her followers, which isn't a smoking gun, but it was also used primarily by Qanoners/fascists.
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Jan 20, 2021 18:01:03 GMT -5
Wait. Is she just a right wing antimasker or a full on Stop the Steal QAnon type? She's supported/retweeted the bullshit voter fraud claims in addition to being anti-mask. Aaaaand she's pushed Parler to her followers, which isn't a smoking gun, but it was also used primarily by Qanoners/fascists. That’s a bit more serious. Not sure it puts her into boycott territory for me, but I’ll be curious to see what she tweets going forward. I had thought she was more like a Chris Pratt than a John Voight.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 18:14:35 GMT -5
People don't want Mando canceled, they just want her out of it.
No, some of them are quite specific about cancelling Mando in it's entirety. The really far gone ones have demanded she be lynched, though they couched it in more politically correct language. Mostly.
IMHO these assholes need to go away every bit as much as the MAGAheads.
You know, putting them in a steel cage and tossing in a few axes and chain saws would make for amazing pay-per-view.
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Jan 20, 2021 18:38:30 GMT -5
Ahah did anyone watch the video I linked to?
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Jan 20, 2021 18:46:43 GMT -5
People don't want Mando canceled, they just want her out of it. No, some of them are quite specific about cancelling Mando in it's entirety. The really far gone ones have demanded she be lynched, though they couched it in more politically correct language. Mostly.
IMHO these assholes need to go away every bit as much as the MAGAheads.
You know, putting them in a steel cage and tossing in a few axes and chain saws would make for amazing pay-per-view.
The majority of people calling for action want her to be fired or removed, and I can't find anything offhand about anyone wanting the show to be canceled. Cherrypicking the worst and presenting it as the majority view to demonize "cancel culture" is dishonest. Ahah did anyone watch the video I linked to? Not yet, but I haven't seen a bad contra points video yet.
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Jan 20, 2021 19:08:18 GMT -5
People don't want Mando canceled, they just want her out of it.
No, some of them are quite specific about cancelling Mando in it's entirety. The really far gone ones have demanded she be lynched, though they couched it in more politically correct language. Mostly.
IMHO these assholes need to go away every bit as much as the MAGAheads.
You know, putting them in a steel cage and tossing in a few axes and chain saws would make for amazing pay-per-view.
I think you’re falling for that Q-adjacent manufactured outrage machine that distorts or invents a handful of posts on the internet. Can you show any evidence that these people really exist in any kind of numbers and aren’t provocateurs themselves? You sound exactly like the coworkers I had friended on Facebook who started going on about Hollywood pedophiles in a big way before realizing they were getting Qanonized. Change your news sites and YouTube subscriptions. Break the algorithm.
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Jan 20, 2021 19:19:39 GMT -5
Ahah did anyone watch the video I linked to? I got about 20 minutes into it and it didn’t seem to be going anywhere. She started out by saying some nobody was the biggest canceling of the last year when that’s not even close to true. Sounded like she had a myopic view of the situation and a good old case of Golden Mean disease. “Both sides” came across as, well, “Both Sides”ism. The whole video is like an hour and a half long. I don’t have that kind of attention span. Please sum up her point and/or link to the appropriate time stamp.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 8:36:49 GMT -5
Cherrypicking the worst and presenting it as the majority view to demonize "cancel culture" is dishonest. Then you owe Wemb an apology.
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Post by adurot on Jan 21, 2021 8:54:21 GMT -5
Cherrypicking the worst and presenting it as the majority view to demonize "cancel culture" is dishonest. Then you owe Wemb an apology. 87% of Republicans approved of what Drumpf was doing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 8:55:39 GMT -5
You sound exactly like the coworkers I had friended on Facebook who started going on about Hollywood pedophiles in a big way before realizing they were getting Qanonized. Change your news sites and YouTube subscriptions. Break the algorithm. Yeah, because I'm sure the painting tutorials I watch on youtube are influencing my politics and CNN is a hotbed of Qanon. I'll take pictures next time to prove they're real, but yes, they are, and they're the same idiots that also stand outside the door and demand we ban Mark Twain from the library.
It's clear that some people never learned the lesson of the 1950's Hollywood blacklist, which is all 'cancel culture' is.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 8:58:11 GMT -5
87% of Republicans approved of what Drumpf was doing. Which is a lie that Trump repeated for years. Here's the thing about surveys, you can make them say anything depending on how you phrase the questions and who you ask.
Anyone who bothered to check Biden's election numbers against voter registry's knows that's a lie.
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Jan 21, 2021 9:24:49 GMT -5
The whole video is like an hour and a half long. I don’t have that kind of attention span. Please sum up her point and/or link to the appropriate time stamp. Ahah yeah video essay YouTube can be quite long. If you think that's too long, let me tell you about the 4 part video by TimbaOnToast on James O'Keefe and Project Veritas : total runtime is almost 6 hours long! So, for your first statement, she says “The most high-profile YouTube cancelling on 2019”. Which one do you think that would be? I've never heard of that guy before either, but then again I don't know any other YouTuber that got cancelled except ContraPoint and I'm not surprised that some YouTubers way more followers despite me never having heard about them. Trying to sum up the part of the video you haven't watched. ContraPoints has been cancelled for collaborating with transgender porn star Buck Angel. Buck angel is a older trans man from a generation with less trans visibility and less access to information about transition, and where there was a strict medical gatekeeping system for people who wanted to transition. He became an activist, wanted more positive trans representation within the porn world. Contrapoint asked him to read a quote from someone else on one of her video. But a lot of trans people also hate Buck Angel, so ContraPoint was cancelled by them over it. They hate him because they think he is truscum. Explanation about truscum, see 27:27 to 28:45. However, ContraPoint thinks the notion of truscum makes sense for a more recent group of people that formed their opinion more recently with the aforementioned higher trans visibility and trans issue discussion on the internet. (This is much more detailed in the video if you care about it). And then a bunch more thinks Buck Angel and her are accused of, and answers to those. You can check 58:00 for example of tweets. And before you say it's all fake, I can tell you that even before watching the video I saw someone “cancelling” her in my Twitter feed (only one person though, I don't follow a lot of people that are super into this kind of gender stuff thingies). And then all the other leftist YouTuber she ever associated to in some way received demands to condemn her on twitter too (see at 1:05:58 to 1:09:00) And then a bunch more stuff. I think the big point here is that you have never heard (and don't care ?) about the people that are being “cancelled” in the first meaning of the term and you think people are talking about the second meaning when they are talking about the first one. Also it seems worth pointing out that in the first sense it doesn't affect people who are not “very online” and it doesn't affect right-wingers either. Anyone who bothered to check Biden's election numbers against voter registry's knows that's a lie. Wait I thought that both Trump and Biden got a record high number of votes, what do you mean?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 9:37:58 GMT -5
Wait I thought that both Trump and Biden got a record high number of votes, what do you mean? Compare the number of votes that Trump got, compared to winning Republicans in Congress.
If these two numbers had been the same, Trump would have won.
But they're not.
They suggest his actual approval rating was much lower than gallup, but it varies by region.
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Jan 21, 2021 10:51:01 GMT -5
Cheesy, it sounds like you are talking about a very small, very niche group of people who are very online suffering effects that are very online.that pretty much fits what I meant when conservatives, or anyone, point to something as small and inconsequential as a student government to make a point about a larger cultural phenomenon.
By that metric, the great YTMND/Ebaumsworld war of 2005(?) was consequential.
The supposed “cancel culture” of conservatives and “normal people” losing everything because of angry leftists is a separate issue on another scale.
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