Great Cthulhu Himself
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In the house of Ry'leh, Great Cthulu lies sleeping...
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Post by Great Cthulhu Himself on Jan 30, 2021 19:40:11 GMT -5
It’s also important to note that the bipartisan approach is: A) mainly for your internal audience. You offer up the package, ask what spending they don’t like and make them say “I don’t like funding for vaccines” or “I don’t like direct payments” instead of just saying “the whole thing is expensive”, and then you can show to your voters that you tried. Bipartisanship doesn’t mean the minority party gets to stop anything they don’t like, it just means that you make an honest effort and then move on. B) budget Reconciliation is still bipartisan, because the minority party can still have input and still vote on it. More to the point, does anyone expect a bill to pass as-is in its first draft? A first draft bill is staking out an initial bargaining position. |
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Post by adurot on Feb 1, 2021 11:46:18 GMT -5
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Post by squidhills on Feb 1, 2021 13:13:34 GMT -5
If you don't vote, you have no right to complain. |
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Feb 1, 2021 13:32:12 GMT -5
If you don't vote, you have no right to complain. I don't entirely agree with that, because the difference between voting and not voting can be nonexistent at times, such as a Republican voting for president in say, California or anyone in a race with McConnell. |
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CommieCanUCK
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Post by CommieCanUCK on Feb 1, 2021 14:32:39 GMT -5
If you don't vote, you have no right to complain. I don't entirely agree with that, because the difference between voting and not voting can be nonexistent at times, such as a Republican voting for president in say, California or anyone in a race with McConnell. That's a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy, though. Everyone eligible should vote, regardless of the fact if their chosen candidate has a realistic chance or not. |
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Feb 1, 2021 15:25:21 GMT -5
I don't entirely agree with that, because the difference between voting and not voting can be nonexistent at times, such as a Republican voting for president in say, California or anyone in a race with McConnell. That's a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy, though. Everyone eligible should vote, regardless of the fact if their chosen candidate has a realistic chance or not. I agree that everyone should vote, but I don't think not voting means you give up your right to complain or criticize something. |
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Post by squidhills on Feb 1, 2021 19:27:49 GMT -5
It was an old saying I decided to employ as a bit of snark, guys. Don't over think it.
Of course someone can complain if they participate in voting or not, but I think everyone should agree that not voting forfeits your right to overthrow the government when the candidate you didn't vote for loses.
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Post by semipotentwalrus on Feb 1, 2021 20:25:02 GMT -5
but I think everyone should agree that not voting forfeits your right to overthrow the government when the candidate you didn't vote for loses. I don't agree.
No such right to forfeit in the first place.  |
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Post by adurot on Feb 6, 2021 2:59:00 GMT -5
Yay Covid is over! I mean, surely it is, right? Why else would the Iowa governor end all mask and social distancing mandates and gathering limits? It’s not like our state is ranked 47th in vaccine distribution or that new more contagious strain has been found here yet, right?
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CommieCanUCK
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Post by CommieCanUCK on Feb 8, 2021 12:10:20 GMT -5
Meanwhile, BC's pandemic safety protocols (lockdown, basically) have been extended 'indefinitely' this past weekend.
I'm so glad we have a (nominally) soc-dem government.
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Post by steelmage99 on Feb 10, 2021 17:56:27 GMT -5
Hilarious. President-reject Donald Trump releases statement promoting the pathetic idea, that he cannot be impeached because he is a private citizen......while using the Presidential Seal as the header for the statement.  |
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Post by hatoflords on Feb 11, 2021 2:17:00 GMT -5
It really is perfect, isn't it?
Trump will be acquitted, probably. But his defense and excuses have been so transparently pathetic they've effectively convicted him in the way that matters most. While it may not seem such now, Trump's legacy in the long run will be exactly what he deserves. In time, removed from the heat of these moments, Donald Trump will never be anything more than a clown tolerated by sycophants, opportunists, and bigots.
That just leaves the short run to worry about.
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Post by dabbler on Feb 11, 2021 2:43:42 GMT -5
The problem is, the short run in American Politics could include him making it through the next election if he keeps enough of a chokehold on the Rs
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Post by hatoflords on Feb 11, 2021 2:57:01 GMT -5
Trump won't run again. For all the wiffling, the GOP doesn't want him in office, they only want his fervent supporters because they can't win without them. In 4 years I think his reputation and the GOP will be thoroughly damaged. Trump couldn't win in 2020 and won by slim margins in 2016. He's a dead candidate. Trumpism isn't going to be dangerous because of him, just his insane supporters and the Republican party's spinelessness.
I'd be more worried about one of his brats running.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Feb 15, 2021 19:27:40 GMT -5
I dunno if anyone is left here who hasn't already moved over, but here's the link to the new forum: www.etcforums.com/forum |
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