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Post by adurot on Mar 3, 2021 14:25:21 GMT -5
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Post by adurot on Mar 4, 2021 7:13:42 GMT -5
The guy who made the gold statue has now admitted it was made in China because it’s way cheaper to produce them there.
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Post by dabbler on Mar 4, 2021 9:53:01 GMT -5
Absolute gold
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Post by Hordini on Mar 4, 2021 21:51:02 GMT -5
The guy who made the gold statue has now admitted it was made in China because it’s way cheaper to produce them there. That is likely the most poetic thing I've heard all day. I am also not in the least bit surprised.
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Post by Hordini on Mar 4, 2021 22:42:26 GMT -5
Looking over the other Wasteland ETC forums and its giving off a distinct feeling of a ship burning down to the waterline, slowly drifting out of control. If we're guessing Dakka users, I would like to posit that Manchu has alternative accounts on Dakka, his attitudes towards moderation and his own behaviour seem to explain why certain parts of the boards (such as geek media) are still such shitholes of poop flinging monkeys. Probably not though, but it would be funny if it turned out to be true. ETC isn't really much like this place at all. It isn't even close to what it was, and what it is now is basically one ridiculous thread. Most of the members appear to at least be making an effort to have semi-reasonable conversations over at ETC.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Mar 4, 2021 23:05:45 GMT -5
Not for much longer if the "no mods, no gods" group has their way tbf. I don't think that's likely though, as RiTides has already acknowledged he needs more moderation than what dakka has. And honestly, it feels like a bullet was dodged with Manchu refusing a mod position.
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Post by Hordini on Mar 4, 2021 23:40:32 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure RiTides is going to go forward with the mod election idea. The number of people advocating for no or minimal moderation was significantly smaller that those advocating for more moderation. And even if Manchu hadn't refused a mod position, he would be one of several when it's all said and done.
And the lack of moderation isn't the only thing that gave this place its unique character. It was one factor, but certainly not the only one. I do think the desire for more moderation is a bit overblown in practice, especially in a community as small as ETC (and this place) currently is, but I understand the concern and I'm willing to accept it if that's what everyone else feels like they need to maintain a reasonable level of comfort during discussions of potentially controversial issues.
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Mar 5, 2021 0:14:21 GMT -5
One huge difference is the presence, or lack, of certain individuals. Here, Whembly (and a couple others) came on so strong so early that a lot of quality posters left before any discussions could mature. If ETC had been flooded by Prof Tann and Grey Em posts starting on day one, it would probably be just like this place by now. ETC got lucky that enough posters got involved in enough threads to maintain interest even when shitposters derail things again and again.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Mar 5, 2021 3:40:29 GMT -5
ETC isn't really much like this place at all. It isn't even close to what it was, and what it is now is basically one ridiculous thread. Most of the members appear to at least be making an effort to have semi-reasonable conversations over at ETC. It isn't no, but it could become what it is now. Main difference is that ETC had the actual backing of Dakka mods, which enabled more users to find it. Also about making an effort, that same effort was made here in the beginning. But that gets destroyed by the 'circlejerk' Grey Eminence is so kindly displaying on the ETC now: "transgender people are mentally ill/biology!" *tons of rebuttal* "ok, but they're mentally ill right/biology". This has now restarted for the third time. What's the chance that people will still semi-reasonably respond in 6 months with the 10th iteration on the exact same bigoted argument?
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Mar 5, 2021 5:52:00 GMT -5
and what it is now is basically one ridiculous thread. My favorite ridiculous thread <3
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Post by dabbler on Mar 5, 2021 6:20:24 GMT -5
What are they expecting out of the third gender thread? It's just people trying to be polite to the folk denying trans people until they eventually lose their patience. Seems fucking dumb
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Post by hatoflords on Mar 5, 2021 12:54:39 GMT -5
What are they expecting out of the third gender thread? It's just people trying to be polite to the folk denying trans people until they eventually lose their patience. Seems fucking dumb You can't really have a discussion that is civil and comes down to "Person X is not a real person vs 'can't call this bigot a bigot even though obvious bigot is obvious." It's a really dumb paradigm.
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Post by dabbler on Mar 5, 2021 13:38:32 GMT -5
What are they expecting out of the third gender thread? It's just people trying to be polite to the folk denying trans people until they eventually lose their patience. Seems fucking dumb You can't really have a discussion that is civil and comes down to "Person X is not a real person vs 'can't call this bigot a bigot even though obvious bigot is obvious." It's a really dumb paradigm. That's what I don't get. Weird decisions
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CommieCanUCK
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Post by CommieCanUCK on Mar 5, 2021 13:41:20 GMT -5
not everyone who doesn't 'get' transgenderism, even after multiple explanations, is a bigot. Some people are just really, really, really stupid.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Mar 5, 2021 13:42:05 GMT -5
You can't really have a discussion that is civil and comes down to "Person X is not a real person vs 'can't call this bigot a bigot even though obvious bigot is obvious." It's a really dumb paradigm. That's what I don't get. Weird decisions It's because they want to naively believe that people like grey can have their minds changed over the internet, despite their interactions with them.
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