skyth
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Post by skyth on Mar 10, 2023 15:01:42 GMT -5
Hey, looks like the second blatantly racist thing that grog has said recently...
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Post by Peregrine on Mar 10, 2023 15:14:55 GMT -5
What color are the counties eating that money and what color are the people lol? Mostly white-majority red counties. That's the hilarious thing about people like you, you have it completely backwards. Urban blue counties may have some people getting welfare money but they also have the majority of economic activity and are responsible for most tax revenue. The counties that are net takers of money are the rural ones where the local Walmart is the biggest employer, paying poverty-level wages and depending on welfare payments to subsidize its labor supply. Or the farmers that depend on agriculture subsidies to stay in business, which is a major form of welfare payments that conservatives like to ignore. But it's interesting that now you've had to move the goalposts from states to counties. Do you think that the US should be split up county by county now? And now you're contradicting yourself. How can you have your own laws in your state if you move to a blue state? This is your regularly scheduled reminder that Saint Reagan, with the backing of conservatives, passed some very strict gun control laws because he was terrified of black gun owners.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Mar 10, 2023 15:21:53 GMT -5
Republicans always think they get to take everything with them that makes America 'great' in the divorce, always forgetting they couldn't even afford the divorce lawyer if not for the Democrats.
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Post by Peregrine on Mar 10, 2023 15:48:11 GMT -5
Just for fun, let's look at my home state of WA: King county (Seattle, Biden +52.7) creates 43% of state revenue but spends only 27% of state expenses. That's a significant net revenue source that is distributed to other parts of the state. Parts of the state such as Okanagan county (Trump +13.8) and Stevens county (Trump +42.1), which receive more than double what they pay into state revenue. So sure, let the red counties have their divorce and get away from the evils of BLM and socialism. I'm sure if you live in Stevens county the fact that it's 88% white will be great comfort as your schools close, your roads fall apart, and you're begging for someone to let you cross the border into a blue county if you need medical treatment.
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skyth
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Post by skyth on Mar 10, 2023 16:18:08 GMT -5
Actually acting like being a blatant racist and bigot actually means you have a valid argument.
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Post by Peregrine on Mar 10, 2023 16:58:33 GMT -5
peregrine But we wouldn’t have black thieves and murderers, mutilated tranny kids, gay parades sodomising in the street, foreigners who hate us, homeless camps, etc. Your side are the wealthiest people on earth and everything you touch is a horror show. So yes, I would want separation if possible. And I’m not a conservative, republican, or any of the other cardboard cutouts cnn puts in your head.
Odd, because I'm about as leftist as you can get and I don't really see any of that happening. I mean, yeah, there are black thieves and murderers but there are also plenty of white thieves and murderers to go with them and the determining factor in crime rates is poverty, not race. And how many of those homeless camps are the result of red states/counties shipping all their homeless people to blue cities because they can't afford to (or won't) do anything to help them? How much worse would things be in red areas if they had to deal with their own problems instead of dumping them on blue areas and leeching off of our economic success?
But maybe you're just racist/homophobic/etc trash and it's a tragedy we won't ever get to see your national divorce plan happen.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Mar 10, 2023 17:28:45 GMT -5
Do you identify as some form of Ayn Rand?
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Mar 10, 2023 17:55:02 GMT -5
peregrineBut we wouldn’t have black thieves and murderers, mutilated tranny kids, gay parades sodomising in the street, foreigners who hate us, homeless camps, etc. Your side are the wealthiest people on earth and everything you touch is a horror show. So yes, I would want separation if possible. And I’m not a conservative, republican, or any of the other cardboard cutouts cnn puts in your head. Have you never been inside an actual city? You talk about cardboard cutouts put in someone’s head, but look at the absolute ridiculous shit you’re babbling about. You’re scared to death of the dumbest bogeymen.
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Post by herzlos on Mar 10, 2023 18:08:40 GMT -5
peregrine But we wouldn’t have black thieves and murderers, mutilated tranny kids, gay parades sodomising in the street, foreigners who hate us, homeless camps, etc. Your side are the wealthiest people on earth and everything you touch is a horror show. So yes, I would want separation if possible. And I’m not a conservative, republican, or any of the other cardboard cutouts cnn puts in your head. That's hilarious. So you'd rather your state went back to the stone age than have to be anywhere near coloured people, gays or queers? You'll have a lot more thieves, murders and homeless once you lose all lefty-generate subsidies. But that's A OK as long as they are white and straight?
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Post by grog on Mar 10, 2023 18:16:05 GMT -5
A little hyperbolic there pal, crime correlates with black population so it would definitely be better. I know it’s hard for you to process why we don’t want anything to do with liberal triumphs like San Fransisco, philadelphia, New York, Paris, and London lmao. Should be a great deal for you but I know you have a psychopathic need for rightwingers to blame liberalisms effects on. Your spiritual core is to put your boot on your enemies neck while accepting an increasingly lower standard of living and pretending it was always that way.
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Post by Peregrine on Mar 10, 2023 18:19:46 GMT -5
A little hyperbolic there pal, crime correlates with black population so it would definitely be better. Crime correlates with poverty. Go to a poor white area and you'll see just as much crime. Meanwhile red states only have the standard of living they currently enjoy because they leech off the productivity of those evil BLM socialist urban areas. Take all that charity support away and an all-white trailer park will look like paradise in comparison to what you'd get.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Mar 10, 2023 18:22:03 GMT -5
Calculated per capita, you're much worse off in red states when it comes to crime, because as Peregrine said, it's related to poverty.
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Post by grog on Mar 10, 2023 18:31:52 GMT -5
The poverty=crime is incorrect, wealthy, low crime areas are full of people selected for high IQ, education, and race; Asians, Indians, Whites. If you took a bunch of ghetto blacks and gave them a town and money they would turn it into detroit in a week. It won’t work for the same reason that not everyone can be a doctor, lawyer, professor, business owner, etc people are not the same.
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Post by Peregrine on Mar 10, 2023 18:33:42 GMT -5
The poverty=crime is incorrect, wealthy, low crime areas are full of people selected for high IQ, education, and race; Asians, Indians, Whites. If you took a bunch of ghetto blacks and gave them a town and money they would turn it into detroit in a week. It won’t work for the same reason that not everyone can be a doctor, lawyer, professor, business owner, etc people are not the same. And if you go to a poor white trailer park where the local meth lab is the only employer I bet you'll see lots of crime. And I bet if dropped those people into a town without giving them any education or assistance they'd turn it into a trailer park in a week.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Mar 10, 2023 18:38:01 GMT -5
I guess the triangle of relatively hivh crime, substance abuse and limited government support just happens to coincide with some of the poorest (red) states in the US.
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