grog
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Post by grog on Mar 10, 2023 19:59:11 GMT -5
I guess the triangle of relatively hivh crime, substance abuse and limited government support just happens to coincide with some of the poorest (red) states in the US. Well the higher white population the state the lower the violent crime despite being poor and/or high drug usage. Lowest crime states and highest white percentage is almost the same list. And as demographics changed from white to non in cities like Detroit the crime went up. Same for Europe too. |
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Post by Peregrine on Mar 10, 2023 20:19:19 GMT -5
Well the higher white population the state the lower the violent crime despite being poor and/or high drug usage. Lowest crime states and highest white percentage is almost the same list. And as demographics changed from white to non in cities like Detroit the crime went up. Same for Europe too.
And before you get started on county-by-county rates, yes, I'm aware that urban areas (which are usually less white) have more crime than rural areas within the same state. Wyoming doesn't have low crime because it's very white, it has low crime because it's hard to commit any crimes when the nearest person outside of your immediate family is 50 miles away. Except for bestiality, I suppose, but the violent crime stats don't typically include what happens when you're lonely and it's just you and the cows.
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Post by easye on Mar 13, 2023 10:02:52 GMT -5
Hey, I live in Wyoming!
Did you know, that Bestiality is most common with white, single college educated folks who make $100K+ or more?
I guess the (in)famous Dr. Kinsey (more likely his institute) did some research on the subject.
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Post by easye on Mar 27, 2023 16:33:27 GMT -5
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Mar 28, 2023 1:39:34 GMT -5
Ugh, even mass shootings have gone woke now?
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Post by Haighus on Mar 28, 2023 6:40:19 GMT -5
Transgender apparently, although I am not clear yet whether trans man or trans woman.
I am sure the US Republican party will not miss the opportunity to weaponise this to attack trans folk.
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Post by adurot on Mar 28, 2023 6:55:03 GMT -5
Transgender apparently, although I am not clear yet whether trans man or trans woman. I am sure the US Republican party will not miss the opportunity to weaponise this to attack trans folk. I believe the transgender thing is just a new twist on a running joke/hoax where after every mass shooting they trend a comedian, Sam, as the shooter. Since this one was a woman they photoshopped the usual photo and said the shooter was a trans woman named Samantha. Kind of lost track of what information might be real and which is mis though. But yes, once stuff starts to trend, be true or not, the alt right have already come out in droves to attack trans shooters. |
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Post by maddocgrotsnik on Mar 28, 2023 7:22:53 GMT -5
Clarification from the BBC.
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Post by easye on Mar 28, 2023 11:43:43 GMT -5
Either way, the "profile" of Mass Shooters has changed a lot in the last year.
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Post by grog on Mar 28, 2023 12:47:47 GMT -5
Either way, the "profile" of Mass Shooters has changed a lot in the last year. It hasn’t changed at all, most mass shooters are black. In 2021 75% of mass shootings had a black perpetrator, 12% were white, big surprise. What has changed is that there are more trannies: Colorado Springs Shooter was non binary Aberdeen shooter was transgender Denver shooter was transgender Nashville shooter was transgender Mentally ill, violent activists are becoming murderous and cannot be allowed near guns or children. |
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Post by herzlos on Mar 28, 2023 12:51:42 GMT -5
I don't suppose you have a source? Because my understanding was that white men made up about 50% of mass shooters.
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Post by grog on Mar 28, 2023 12:57:13 GMT -5
I don't suppose you have a source? Because my understanding was that white men made up about 50% of mass shooters. mass-shootings.info/statistics.php |
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Post by skyth on Mar 28, 2023 13:04:07 GMT -5
Of course, that line of BS is due to 'mass shooting' being defined differently than it is being used in this context.
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Post by herzlos on Mar 28, 2023 14:11:39 GMT -5
I don't suppose you have a source? Because my understanding was that white men made up about 50% of mass shooters. mass-shootings.info/statistics.php
So there must be some data cherry picking involved; using dodgy definitions somewhere?
Google tells me that statista is reliable, but if I search for "is mass-shootings.info reliable" all I get is the link back to mass-shootings.info. It's a completely anonymous site, registered from Iceland via "NameCheap", has no contact info or citations, so I can't do anything to confirm if it's reliable.
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Post by Hordini on Mar 28, 2023 19:13:01 GMT -5
Of course, that line of BS is due to 'mass shooting' being defined differently than it is being used in this context. Different sources using different definitions is a huge part of the problem. According to the source herzlos posted, "Since 2013, the source defines a mass shooting as any single attack in a public place with three or more fatalities, in line with the definition by the FBI. Before 2013, a mass shooting was defined as any single attack in a public place with four or more fatalities." So they are already using two different definitions, one of which is different than what the FBI uses. Then you have sources like CNN and the Gun Violence Archive, who define mass shootings as a shooting that injured or killed four or more people, not including the shooter. So that would include shootings in which nobody is killed but 4 or more wounded. The different total numbers that you could come up with based on those definitions are going to be incredibly variable. Using CNN and GVA's definition, you'll have the most. The FBI's definition will have fewer, and the pre-2013 source from the statista site will have even fewer. Some sources will tweak the numbers too by including or leaving out things like gang on gang violence. It also doesn't help that when a lot of people hear "mass shooting" they immediately think of active shooter attacks like Columbine or Sandy Hook, when most of the mass shootings from the sources reporting the highest numbers (like CNN and GVA) are not that. |
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