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Post by pacific on Sept 21, 2023 4:20:27 GMT -5
Have many people managed to actually get a login for bluesky yet? And if so how are they finding it?
I went onto the waiting list about 6 months ago I think, but am still waiting for an invite.
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Post by adurot on Sept 21, 2023 4:53:04 GMT -5
It’s alright. It’s mostly Twitter without it saving your spot in your feed.
Invite Codes! They’re single use only each.
bsky-social-7kg23-zc2iv
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Post by pacific on Sept 21, 2023 5:10:06 GMT -5
Thank you so much adurot!  I used the last code on there. |
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Post by Haighus on Sept 21, 2023 9:34:21 GMT -5
Fucking hell. Musk is looking for Guinea pigs to have his brain chip shoved in their melons. Fuck. That. This got lost in the hunting thing. Yikes! I... can't see that passing ethics approval based on what has been released publicly about the monkey trials. Sounds sketchy as fuck. Edit: www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-66865895Apparently it has. I really hope this trial is run properly. |
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Sept 21, 2023 9:41:55 GMT -5
With how capitalism is going in the US, you either have to be mental or desperate to get something like this implanted.
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Post by herzlos on Sept 21, 2023 9:57:36 GMT -5
Musk has a lot of intellectually sub-par fanbois. Sadly I don't think he'll be short of volunteers.
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Post by Haighus on Sept 21, 2023 10:26:06 GMT -5
With how capitalism is going in the US, you either have to be mental or desperate to get something like this implanted. They are recruiting quadraplegic people with the aim of identifying neural mobility signals that could be used (presumably) to control a powered exoskeleton. The concept is sound, and I suspect there is no shortage of desperate people in that situation. Neural implants have existed since the 80's in the form of cochlear implants. My reservations are entirely based around Musk's involvement, as his personal approach to safety and associated processes seem to be... lacking. The less involvement he has in the actual project, the better. Thankfully, healthcare research is pretty heavily regulated which should provide oversight. |
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Sept 21, 2023 10:47:08 GMT -5
My reservations are that the law has in no way caught up to protect the users of this technology. Given the level of privatization in healthcare, what happens when companies no longer pay for guinea pigs and they need to cough up the cash? If your chip malfunctions, are they obligated to replace it? Software vulnerabilities? Etc. Etc.
This is a whole new level of medical/technical device that is open to a similar new level of exploitation. This being based in the US gives it a lot less optimistic leeway.
I get that for a lot this will be a 'what do you have to lose?' type situation. But what if it works, but then...
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Post by Haighus on Sept 21, 2023 12:11:08 GMT -5
My reservations are that the law has in no way caught up to protect the users of this technology. Given the level of privatization in healthcare, what happens when companies no longer pay for guinea pigs and they need to cough up the cash? If your chip malfunctions, are they obligated to replace it? Software vulnerabilities? Etc. Etc. This is a whole new level of medical/technical device that is open to a similar new level of exploitation. This being based in the US gives it a lot less optimistic leeway. I get that for a lot this will be a 'what do you have to lose?' type situation. But what if it works, but then... Frankly? It comes down to the consent form. I don't see this being significantly different to any other type of medical implant. If the company is negligent the redress is via suing in civil court (with potential crimial convictions for practitioners). The device concept isn't new, we have had neural implants that restore lost function for 40 years. |
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Post by herzlos on Sept 22, 2023 3:35:51 GMT -5
I guess it also depends on what the implants can do. A fairly basic pacemaker type thing doesn't have much scope for abuse; it should last years and just need the occasional battery change? But there's certainly not going to be anything in the books currently about data mining or advertising via neural devices, because who'd have thought anyone would be Musk enough to consider it. I don't know if he is considering it, but I can't see why he'd rule it out. Imagine a subscription service for a limb control, where you potentially need to listen to a radio advert before it works. I don't even think Repo! the dystopian film about bionic debts went down that route. With how capitalism is going in the US, you either have to be mental or desperate to get something like this implanted. They are recruiting quadraplegic people with the aim of identifying neural mobility signals that could be used (presumably) to control a powered exoskeleton. The concept is sound, and I suspect there is no shortage of desperate people in that situation. Neural implants have existed since the 80's in the form of cochlear implants. I'd completely forgotten about the US healthcare aspect of this; given how much care will cost for people and how bad insurance is, there's probably an endless list of people happy to be experimented on in order to get free healthcare. If they are dealing with people with low quality of life and can potentially provide some improvement, I'm all for it. Though as you said, I'm deeply skeptical of Musks involvement. |
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Post by mdgv2 on Sept 22, 2023 3:37:48 GMT -5
I’m not so much skeptical of this due to Musk’s involvement, but full on expecting the results to be Professor Moneky-For-A-Hesd out of Earthworm Jim.
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Post by pacific on Sept 22, 2023 4:45:43 GMT -5
With how capitalism is going in the US, you either have to be mental or desperate to get something like this implanted. They are recruiting quadraplegic people with the aim of identifying neural mobility signals that could be used (presumably) to control a powered exoskeleton. The concept is sound, and I suspect there is no shortage of desperate people in that situation. Neural implants have existed since the 80's in the form of cochlear implants. My reservations are entirely based around Musk's involvement, as his personal approach to safety and associated processes seem to be... lacking. The less involvement he has in the actual project, the better. Thankfully, healthcare research is pretty heavily regulated which should provide oversight. These are my thoughts on it too. I have nothing but sympathy for anyone suffering from 'locked in' syndrome, or quadriplegics etc. and any news like this will give them some hope. But yes the reservations are around Musk, and after what we have seen with the dumpster fire that is now Twitter, whether this will be more like the Bond Villain approach, or perhaps more like SpaceX, where his funds can help put a lot of smart people together in a room and just let them get on with it - hopefully it will be the latter. |
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Post by mdgv2 on Sept 23, 2023 16:55:59 GMT -5
Apparently, Twitter is borked!
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Sept 23, 2023 20:29:44 GMT -5
Did something just happen?
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Sept 23, 2023 20:42:26 GMT -5
Seems like it's still up for me
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I used the last code on there. 
