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Post by easye on Sept 25, 2023 10:42:18 GMT -5
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Post by pacific on Sept 26, 2023 5:47:35 GMT -5
Excellent news! This seems to have been going on for some time, and I'm glad if they do have a resolution just as some cracks were starting to appear.
And at least this time we won't have a period of "Walking Dead Season Twos" as we did following the last writers strike, as this time almost everything has been put on hold.
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Post by skyth on Sept 26, 2023 12:17:41 GMT -5
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Post by easye on Sept 26, 2023 13:09:44 GMT -5
Excellent news! This seems to have been going on for some time, and I'm glad if they do have a resolution just as some cracks were starting to appear. And at least this time we won't have a period of "Walking Dead Season Twos" as we did following the last writers strike, as this time almost everything has been put on hold. Good news, but not a done deal yet.....
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Post by easye on Sept 28, 2023 9:57:27 GMT -5
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Sept 28, 2023 10:33:29 GMT -5
Reminds me a little of Epic versus Apple, on among other parts the 30% cut that Apple takes on the app store. Apple won on that 30% cut, so I wonder if Amazon will take a significant hit on their cut.
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Post by Haighus on Sept 28, 2023 11:00:23 GMT -5
Reminds me a little of Epic versus Apple, on among other parts the 30% cut that Apple takes on the app store. Apple won on that 30% cut, so I wonder if Amazon will take a significant hit on their cut. Apple surely has a less dominant impact on their respective market though? Android is a significant, peer competitor with the Play store as default and other repositories are easily installed (like F-droid). Charging a higher cut on developer profits when they can just produce for Android devices is less significant. Amazon seems to be that much more dominant within online retail that I can see this being a bigger deal. What peers does Amazon have in the West? The only company of similar scale I can think of is Alibaba in eastern markets.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Sept 28, 2023 12:04:46 GMT -5
Reminds me a little of Epic versus Apple, on among other parts the 30% cut that Apple takes on the app store. Apple won on that 30% cut, so I wonder if Amazon will take a significant hit on their cut. Apple surely has a less dominant impact on their respective market though? Android is a significant, peer competitor with the Play store as default and other repositories are easily installed (like F-droid). Charging a higher cut on developer profits when they can just produce for Android devices is less significant. Amazon seems to be that much more dominant within online retail that I can see this being a bigger deal. What peers does Amazon have in the West? The only company of similar scale I can think of is Alibaba in eastern markets. It depends on how you view 'the market'. Overall when it comes to smartphones? Sure. But Apple has a built in captive audience, they are monopolies on their respective platforms. Which is exactly the crux of the matter with Amazon charging 50%, third party sellers are not a captive audience in the sense that Apple users are, not literally at least. Its just that Amazon has such name brand recognition that it is hard to market it through your own platform.
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Post by Haighus on Sept 28, 2023 12:10:08 GMT -5
Apple surely has a less dominant impact on their respective market though? Android is a significant, peer competitor with the Play store as default and other repositories are easily installed (like F-droid). Charging a higher cut on developer profits when they can just produce for Android devices is less significant. Amazon seems to be that much more dominant within online retail that I can see this being a bigger deal. What peers does Amazon have in the West? The only company of similar scale I can think of is Alibaba in eastern markets. It depends on how you view 'the market'. Overall when it comes to smartphones? Sure. But Apple has a built in captive audience, they are monopolies on their respective platforms. Which is exactly the crux of the matter with Amazon charging 50%, third party sellers are not a captive audience in the sense that Apple users are, not literally at least. Its just that Amazon has such name brand recognition that it is hard to market it through your own platform. True, but the suit is also targeting Amazon (allegedly) engaging in punitive practices against sellers who also list their wares on other sites. So it is the high fees combined with high market dominance combined with attacks on sellers using other platforms that particularly stinks in this case. For the record, I think Apple is a terrible company with awful business practices and I am glad they are getting particularly slapped by EU legislation on port standardisation and right to repair. I don't like that Apple won the 30% lawsuit, merely pointing out how this one might be considered different.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Sept 28, 2023 12:17:10 GMT -5
Apple is also accused of some punitive practices, it simply has not been brought to court over those practices specifically.
I also thought of the better example in relation to Epic: Steam. Which also won their lawsuit over 30%, but Steam is roughly the Amazon of PC gaming.
I think they can make a case about punitive practices, but I wonder how far that will get and on what basis? Amazon is unlikely to be obliged to host your product.
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Post by Haighus on Sept 28, 2023 12:25:43 GMT -5
I think that is a question for an antitrust lawyer!
US antitrust laws as written are kind of hard to prosecute in general. I certainly am not going to try to predict an outcome of that trial.
I agree a lot of this is simply due to someone having built a case against Amazon, but not other tech megacorps (...hopefully yet). I am confident they all engage in anticompetitive practices routinely.
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Post by easye on Sept 29, 2023 9:25:18 GMT -5
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Post by easye on Oct 4, 2023 10:00:58 GMT -5
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Post by herzlos on Nov 7, 2023 5:25:23 GMT -5
WeWork, the office sharing company, files for bankrupcy: www.cnbc.com/2023/11/07/wework-files-for-bankruptcy.htmlI actually thought stuff like temp/shared offices would do quite well with the work-from-home era since a lot of companies will drop below the threshold where it makes sense to have a dedicated office and thus make more use of temp spaces for staff, meetings, etc. Maybe they didn't capitalize on that somehow or the office market hasn't moved to the on-demand setup quickly enough.
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