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Post by Peregrine on Jul 12, 2024 16:01:18 GMT -5
It does seem crazy that you can theoretically have a president who legally couldn't make decisions about their healthcare or will, but is in charge of the executive branch. But the US does seem to have really weird views on capacity and consent though. Plus we have precedent in Ronald Reagan... The 25th amendment allows a president who is incapable of their duties to be removed from power. But that's a far higher threshold than what we've seen so far from Biden, embarrassing mental lapses don't come anywhere near the level where he would be legally unable to make his own decisions anymore.
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Post by Haighus on Jul 12, 2024 16:29:23 GMT -5
It does seem crazy that you can theoretically have a president who legally couldn't make decisions about their healthcare or will, but is in charge of the executive branch. But the US does seem to have really weird views on capacity and consent though. Plus we have precedent in Ronald Reagan... The 25th amendment allows a president who is incapable of their duties to be removed from power. But that's a far higher threshold than what we've seen so far from Biden, embarrassing mental lapses don't come anywhere near the level where he would be legally unable to make his own decisions anymore. Kinda my point. The law for presidents is a blunt tool, and has none of the flexibility and time-and-place-and-decision specificity of capacity in other contexts.
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Post by Peregrine on Jul 12, 2024 17:04:17 GMT -5
Kinda my point. The law for presidents is a blunt tool, and has none of the flexibility and time-and-place-and-decision specificity of capacity in other contexts. But is that specificity really needed? If you're talking about someone who is no longer mentally capable of making certain decisions they can't do the job anymore and should be removed. What scenario do you think the current system doesn't handle well enough?
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Post by skyth on Jul 12, 2024 17:08:45 GMT -5
Obviously they are talking about when Harris replaces Biden, and as a woman Harris is prevented from making her own medical decisions in some places...
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Post by easye on Jul 13, 2024 13:03:50 GMT -5
Whenever I hear a "Biden is too old" take, I hear "I am afraid to have a black women President".
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Post by adurot on Jul 13, 2024 13:19:07 GMT -5
That’s why all the talk of having him step aside for Harris intrigues me also. Do they really think on the national level they could elect a black woman president? It would be really interesting to see her vs Trump, as she’s everything he despises.
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Post by carlo87 on Jul 13, 2024 17:38:18 GMT -5
Well, holy shit. Assassination attempt on Trump. Looks like he got hit with a bullet. Blood visible on the side of his head. He was still walking under his own power, but was rushed off stage.
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Post by Peregrine on Jul 13, 2024 17:44:29 GMT -5
Such a senseless tragedy, our thoughts and prayers are with the bullets in this difficult time.
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Post by semipotentwalrus on Jul 13, 2024 18:11:26 GMT -5
I don't think you'd want to find out what happens when major political people in highly polarized situations get killed, there's a reason why political violence isn't legitimate in democracies. This just isn't anywhere near acceptable.
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Post by Peregrine on Jul 13, 2024 18:33:53 GMT -5
I'm not going to shed any tears if a confessed pedophile, rapist, narcissist, and generally abusive piece of trash is killed. Trump being a politician doesn't make him any less deserving of death.
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Post by skyth on Jul 13, 2024 18:34:14 GMT -5
It was probably Biden taking advantage of his immunity to get rid of a politician rival...
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Post by letsnotshooteachothe on Jul 13, 2024 19:51:28 GMT -5
Such a senseless tragedy, our thoughts and prayers are with the bullets in this difficult time. Trump being a politician doesn't make him any less deserving of death. We really tried warning what this language would bring. Good God what a horrible and historic moment. And the most extreme reaction is right here. I'm going to report the above to the FBI portal right now. Let's just not shoot each other. And for those of you cheering such actions, shame on you and may you deservedly spend time in prison for your actions.
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Post by adurot on Jul 13, 2024 19:54:51 GMT -5
Such a senseless tragedy, our thoughts and prayers are with the bullets in this difficult time. Trump being a politician doesn't make him any less deserving of death. We really tried warning what this language would bring. Good God what a horrible and historic moment. And the most extreme reaction is right here. I'm going to report the above to the FBI portal right now. Let's just not shoot each other. And for those of you cheering such actions, shame on you and may you deservedly spend time in prison for your actions. Are you also reporting the Republic Rep who already tweeted that the shooter was sent on Biden’s orders?
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Post by Peregrine on Jul 13, 2024 19:56:05 GMT -5
We really tried warning what this language would bring. Good God what a horrible and historic moment. And the most extreme reaction is right here. I'm going to report the above to the FBI portal right now. Let's just not shoot each other. And for those of you cheering such actions, shame on you and may you deservedly spend time in prison for your actions. Oh look, a moron who doesn't understand what is legally a threat and what is protected free speech. Every word I said there is legally protected speech no matter how much it hurts your pathetic little feelings.
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Post by letsnotshooteachothe on Jul 13, 2024 20:06:22 GMT -5
Such a senseless tragedy, our thoughts and prayers are with the bullets in this difficult time. By the way, you know one of these bullets killed someone (not Trump) right? No, threatening the President isn't protected speech, as you well know. Maybe you'll fly under their radar, but you're not that anonymous. I guess we'll see. I will certainly assist in any way I can if they want to follow up with you. Any decent human would condemn this act, and the innocent life it took, and of course the threat to our country that was averted by less than an inch. If you cheer for this kind of thing, you can no longer hide what you are cheering for. Despicable. Hopefully your compatriots here at least disavow you. Good God, you're cheering for an assassination.
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