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Post by redchimera on Jul 30, 2024 14:33:59 GMT -5
The Washington Examiner - a thoroughly worthy and reputable source.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Jul 30, 2024 15:18:30 GMT -5
I mean, it isn't that odd, Republicans are increasingly moving to the political fringe and therefore alienating more people/donors, especially with Trump. Corporations go with the market, so are on average more progressive leaning, Democrats cause less problems (they won't 'culture war' your company over pride stickers or whatever) and the economy tends to preform better under Dem administrations.
So why would it be surprising that the Dems tend to perform better with donors overall? You just need a cap of what individual donors can spend on a yearly basis, force public disclosures and either cap or disallow corporations to donate (to avoid loopholes).
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Jul 30, 2024 15:29:29 GMT -5
People over $500K are not billionaires. Although, I did find that link really interesting. How do you suppose this equates to the data that the J6 rioters tended to be above Median earners? According to Pew, Republicans tend to outearn Democrats on average if looking at bare numbers. The Examiner is just being dishonest with statistics because they take 500.000 as the arbitrary line (depending on where you live, income needs can vary greatly, also is the 500k line based on individual politics or just based on district?) and then fail to compare the percentage of Dems earning less than 100k (82% of Dems versus 77% of Reps). Comparing based on districts is also pointless and misleading, because a Dem in New York needs to vastly outearn a Rep in Nowhere Idaho to have a similar standard of life. www.pewresearch.org/religious-landscape-study/database/compare/income-distribution/by/party-affiliation/This isn't about donors, so it's hard to say how those metrics look. To make a gross generalization based on Pew, general knowledge and districts: Dems tend to live in more expensive areas, while less of them earn over 100K than Reps. Terrible Examiner article with very few explanations. The Newsweek article is better, but lacks a lot of links. But the impression you get of the overall story, is that Dems do well at both the very top and the bottom of incomes, but Reps seem to hold the middle.
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Post by Haighus on Jul 30, 2024 15:44:10 GMT -5
Americans also tend to forget they have two rightwing parties.
Democrats are the party of housetrained capitalists. Republicans were the party of warlord capitalists, although as mentioned they are increasingly leaping off the deep end with the culture war stuff.
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Post by skyth on Jul 30, 2024 18:39:59 GMT -5
Republicans have always been leaping off the deep end with culture war stuff, at least since the Reagan era.
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Aug 1, 2024 1:35:25 GMT -5
The NABJ interview is something else. Everyone already knew Trump something of a bigot and misogynist, but this really highlighted what a whiny little bitch he is.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Aug 1, 2024 2:25:33 GMT -5
I don't know why his collection of idiots was thinking that Trump doing this was a good idea. Given his history with Obama/general comments about black people, the best that you could hope for here was him not saying the N word.
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Post by Peregrine on Aug 1, 2024 3:02:51 GMT -5
I don't know why his collection of idiots was thinking that Trump doing this was a good idea. Given his history with Obama/general comments about black people, the best that you could hope for here was him not saying the N word. Does anyone have the power to stop him if Trump lets his ego win and insists on appearing?
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Aug 1, 2024 3:07:57 GMT -5
Trump isn't the most invested, would he even know about these events/invites, unless someone is dumb enough to make him aware?
Someone, somewhere in his campaign is sorting through these events and actually telling Trump about it.
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Post by mdgv2 on Aug 1, 2024 5:36:16 GMT -5
Well, his counsel seem incapable of making him shut the fuck up during his various trials, why should the campaign trail be any different?
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Post by Peregrine on Aug 1, 2024 6:22:50 GMT -5
Trump isn't the most invested, would he even know about these events/invites, unless someone is dumb enough to make him aware? Someone, somewhere in his campaign is sorting through these events and actually telling Trump about it. I don't know, Trump seems like exactly the kind of narcissist to obsess over who is inviting him to things and feed his ego with being desired and important.
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Post by pacific on Aug 1, 2024 6:52:37 GMT -5
I haven't yet seen the new Roger Stone documentary (it is meant to be very good, if terrifying) but one comment I mentioned about it was that apparently Stone would mention things like "you remember that great idea you had last year about x?" (insert something here, which was basically something that Trump hadn't said at all, but the advisers thought was a correct course of action) - and that was a way to help keep directing him.
It does make you realise how dangerous another Trump presidency would be. Not only the man himself, but the sorts of individuals who can Worma Grimtongue whisper into his ear and help shape policy. It was a council of rogues last time around, and of course would be exactly the same situation if it happened again.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Aug 1, 2024 8:11:38 GMT -5
Trump seems more like movie Denethor than Theoden. You have to work around him as much as possible, he is the perfect vehicle, not the driver.
No self respecting Grima would have let him go in front of an independent black audience. It's not that his comments are new, but the context of him saying it there gave them an extra horrible dimension.
Also, I wonder if Trump is going to drop Vance, that honeymoon was very short.
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Post by mdgv2 on Aug 1, 2024 8:58:24 GMT -5
What’s happened with Vance?
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Aug 1, 2024 10:13:25 GMT -5
Well, his counsel seem incapable of making him shut the fuck up during his various trials, why should the campaign trail be any different? They were able to shut everything down pretty damn quick once someone mentioned Project 2025.
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