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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Aug 1, 2024 10:15:55 GMT -5
What’s happened with Vance? There are terrible clips of him saying batshit things faster than I can keep up, but the gist seems to be he hates women more than Trump, and would disenfranchise childless adults if he could.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Aug 1, 2024 10:16:52 GMT -5
What’s happened with Vance? Trump said Vance basically doesn't matter and you're only voting for Trump. Which seems odd to say about 50% of a ticket for someone that's next in line for a 78 year old with weight problems. Vance isn't scoring well (now that Biden dropped out). Even Trump is openly acknowledging it here and distancing himself from his own two week old pick. www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-ramps-up-defense-of-vp-choice-vance-after-rocky-rollout
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Post by Haighus on Aug 1, 2024 10:55:08 GMT -5
It seems like Vance was the pick when Trump thought he was gonna win against Biden, and just needed a Trump clone/heir for back up if he died or something.
Now he doesn't seem very confident against Harris, and seems to be regretting a choice that hits the same Trumpian notes rather than a choice that could expand his appeal like Pence did with the Christian right.
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Post by A Town Called Malus on Aug 1, 2024 10:57:45 GMT -5
But without Vance, how can Trump secure the pivotal swing voter bloc of couch fuckers?
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Aug 1, 2024 11:07:25 GMT -5
Feels like the couch fucker vote might overlap heavily with the "wants to fuck his own daughter" vote though.
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Post by easye on Aug 1, 2024 11:51:17 GMT -5
Well, Trump IS back to dominating the news cycle again.
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Post by Peregrine on Aug 1, 2024 15:48:46 GMT -5
Also, I wonder if Trump is going to drop Vance, that honeymoon was very short. Legally he can't. The only way for Vance to be replaced is if he voluntarily drops out and there's zero incentive for him to do so.
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Post by semipotentwalrus on Aug 2, 2024 4:15:37 GMT -5
I eagerly await an explanation from our resident expert on polarising language on how Trump calling Schumer a proud member of Hamas is dialling back the hostile rhetoric. You know, since that was *so* important a few weeks ago.
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Post by Haighus on Aug 2, 2024 4:31:10 GMT -5
Also, I wonder if Trump is going to drop Vance, that honeymoon was very short. Legally he can't. The only way for Vance to be replaced is if he voluntarily drops out and there's zero incentive for him to do so. I thought that wasn't locked in till Ohio?
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Post by Peregrine on Aug 2, 2024 6:07:22 GMT -5
I thought that wasn't locked in till Ohio? Two separate issues. Ohio is the first state deadline for officially locking in the ballot but there's a separate issue in that most/all (I forget which but it's enough to be decisive) states have requirements that the party nominate its candidate according to their own rules. They have the ability to set those rules but they must follow some kind of formal structure. And in the case of the republican party they did not adopt any rules for replacing a nominated candidate who does not wish to step down voluntarily. Maybe they could change those rules in 2028 but for this election it's far too late, Vance is the VP candidate unless he voluntarily steps down and it will be a cold day in hell before a grifter like him lets go of power.
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Post by easye on Aug 5, 2024 10:39:33 GMT -5
www.npr.org/2024/08/05/nx-s1-5061729/harris-trump-swing-states-electoral-mapHarris has momentum, but the race is still tight. Here are the paths to the presidencyDems have been out-performing polls since 2018. Trump is toast if Harris can effectively mobilize female suburban voters. This is where Dems have been killing it since 2018. If this trend continues, expect a blow-out for the Blue. If Suburban Women don't come out or Trump somehow manages to mobilize even MORE new voters than he has, then he could pull off a squeaker. I am not sure how exactly he can mobilize more new voters than he did in 2020, but he consistently manages it. Edit: The current polling maps are showing Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina all Red. I am going out on a limb and saying 3 out of 4 of those states will end up in the Blue column in the final tally.
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Post by easye on Aug 6, 2024 9:25:07 GMT -5
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Post by skyth on Aug 8, 2024 9:58:03 GMT -5
I'm amused that Mr Bonespurs's VP pick is denigrating the other VP pick for their military service of 24 years because they retired before their unit got notified that they would be deployed to a combat zone. As if he some how knew that the unit would be deployed before he put in his notice to retire months before he actually retired...
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Aug 8, 2024 10:31:49 GMT -5
Its a step up for him not to be denigrating his wife and kids for a change though.
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Post by easye on Aug 8, 2024 11:54:53 GMT -5
Swift-boating has worked before, why not give it another shot?
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