Peregrine
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Post by Peregrine on Apr 18, 2024 16:54:38 GMT -5
I assume the point of the private company is so they can just ban what They want to van without public oversite. This is one of the stated reasons, as well as breaking a union of public employees. And, of course, to send lots of public money to a company that employs a previous (and connected) HB mayor.
Yep. And then once the decline in quality of service inevitably results in less use the new owner can use it as justification for closing the libraries and selling the land to their developer buddies.
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Post by herzlos on Apr 19, 2024 5:18:49 GMT -5
We'll all so cynical!
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on May 7, 2024 22:50:23 GMT -5
Huntington Beach is back in the news (and apparently mentioned by John Oliver?). It seems city officials began pulling books out of the library before a committee could be formed or voted on. The head librarian quit after receiving lots of abuse from the vocal right and no support from city government. Just a real shitshow. voiceofoc.org/2024/05/are-public-librarians-gearing-up-to-leave-huntington-beach/ |
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Post by herzlos on May 8, 2024 5:46:04 GMT -5
Given these vocal book banners are unlikely to have actually been in the library*, what's stopping the librarians telling them that all these books have been banned and just forgetting to remove them from the shelves?
*I bet they can't work the dewey-decimal system either.
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on May 8, 2024 9:11:12 GMT -5
The Huntington Beach library is a big, beautiful library with a cafe located on the edge of Hungtinton Central Park and shares a parking lot with a series of baseball and soccer fields. It is one of the best and most popular libraries in northern Orange County if not all of OC. There’s a pretty good chance the book banners do step in after a day of sports or activity, unlike with most libraries.
It also has/had a lot more book readings and events than any other library I’ve been to, except possibly Irvine (because of the university and all the retirees).
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Post by easye on May 8, 2024 9:29:05 GMT -5
I think the librarian quitting is a net-win for the book banners and the lack of local government support to the librarian was intentional to gain this result.
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on May 8, 2024 10:21:54 GMT -5
I think the librarian quitting is a net-win for the book banners and the lack of local government support to the librarian was intentional to gain this result. Yeah, I didn’t understand why she was trying to threaten them with a good time. To me it sounded like she was warning them that their tactics were working. Still, there are huge protests in downtown HB and at the pier, so the public is on her side. |
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Post by adurot on May 8, 2024 17:06:08 GMT -5
Given these vocal book banners are unlikely to have actually been in the library*, what's stopping the librarians telling them that all these books have been banned and just forgetting to remove them from the shelves? *I bet they can't work the dewey-decimal system either. Colbert just did a report on the book banning and they’re issuing complaints and death threats over books the library doesn’t even have. |
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Post by Hordini on May 8, 2024 17:10:33 GMT -5
Given these vocal book banners are unlikely to have actually been in the library*, what's stopping the librarians telling them that all these books have been banned and just forgetting to remove them from the shelves? *I bet they can't work the dewey-decimal system either. Colbert just did a report on the book banning and they’re issuing complaints and death threats over books the library doesn’t even have. That's not particularly surprising, given the people complaining are probably not that interested in reading to begin with. |
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on May 8, 2024 19:46:54 GMT -5
One of the books yanked from shelves for being sexually inappropriate is Everyone Poops.
These are not serious people.
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Peregrine
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Post by Peregrine on May 8, 2024 21:07:06 GMT -5
One of the books yanked from shelves for being sexually inappropriate is Everyone Poops. These are not serious people. Look, just because you don't find it sexy doesn't mean you should kink shame the conservatives. |
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Post by herzlos on May 9, 2024 2:30:25 GMT -5
Remember, real men wear diapers now.
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Post by herzlos on May 9, 2024 2:32:21 GMT -5
I think the librarian quitting is a net-win for the book banners and the lack of local government support to the librarian was intentional to gain this result. Yeah, I didn’t understand why she was trying to threaten them with a good time. To me it sounded like she was warning them that their tactics were working. Still, there are huge protests in downtown HB and at the pier, so the public is on her side.
I think her plan was to either escalate it with the public as has happened, or just to avoid more threats and stress. The Government doesn't have her back either way, so I can't blame her for giving up. It's good that there's actual public support though, that kind of scrutiny and involvement is probably what's needed to stop the book banners since they seem to be allowed to run virtually unopposed.
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Post by easye on May 9, 2024 9:37:06 GMT -5
True. Public support was critical in our area, to prove that the book banners were not a majority of citizens, but just a tiny minority. Also, actual students showing up to the meetings opposing the book bans also helped a lot, and a nod to the Student Council at the time for organizing that support.
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Post by easye on Jun 26, 2024 9:19:00 GMT -5
The truth and lies behind one of the most banned books in Americawww.npr.org/2024/06/26/1197956722/the-truth-and-lies-behind-one-of-the-most-banned-books-in-americaThis is an audio story, and is a long listen about 30 minutes or so. They came for the book Flamer locally. However, it wasn't in either school or public library at the time..... well, until someone gave it to the public library along with a bunch of other Mental Health and LGBTQ+ books for Teens. This was shortly after the book banning efforts swept through the area and Conservatives moved onto their next crusade. I was surprised that our librarians shelved it. I also happen to have a copy on my shelf right now.
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