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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Sept 27, 2018 10:50:27 GMT -5
Is he even still here?
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Sept 27, 2018 11:44:41 GMT -5
I mean, you could just go back and look at most interactions between the two of us. My favorites are any time the Electoral College is brought up because he continually misrepresents population distribution in the US and how the College actually works. It got so bad that he was just copy and pasting viral Facebook posts and acting like he came up with it himself, even though they're easily disprovable. This was my last go with him before I decided just to move on: www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/753985/9908122.page#9908122Yeah, I plan on tackling the previous thread eventually, but the primary goal of this was to point out all his shit so he'd have a harder time handwaving it away. Instead it appears he's resorted to his tactic of "pretend to abondons Dunno, but if he has left for good, literally nothing of value has been lost. He's only ever dragged down debates, discussions, and arguments.
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Sept 27, 2018 11:50:35 GMT -5
OH, I agree. I think he is singlehandedly responsible for Dakka's multi-year drama over Politics in OT. If the moderators there had the spine or the sense to admit after all those years that he was just a garbage poster and inexhaustible shit-stirrer, and had banned him permanently, the OT politics threads would be thriving now with only the occasional hiccup. There wouldn't even be a discussion about banning it.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Sept 27, 2018 12:26:22 GMT -5
I agree. Out of all the troll posters, whem was the worst. There were some other bad ones, but no one near whem's level.
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Post by scootypuffjunior on Sept 27, 2018 13:28:12 GMT -5
I agree. Out of all the troll posters, whem was the worst. There were some other bad ones, but no one near whem's level. Most of my mod wrist slaps and only temporary OT ban were in response to some stupid shit he posted.
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Post by semipotentwalrus on Sept 27, 2018 14:51:32 GMT -5
They didn't ban people who called for muslims in the UK to be put in camps. Whem's never been close to that.
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Post by CommieCanUCK on Sept 27, 2018 15:37:11 GMT -5
Whembly's simply fully embraced 'alternative facts'. He accepts at face value what is fed to him. That's how he can be a climate change denier, anti-choice, and a modern day conservative. He's a true believer.
It's difficult to engage with someone like him. You have no common starting point, no mutually accepted reality. He may as well live in a different universe.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Sept 27, 2018 18:16:23 GMT -5
They didn't ban people who called for muslims in the UK to be put in camps. Whem's never been close to that. I dunno, toddler prisons was pretty close to that, if not worse because it was (and still is) happening. I mean, whem defended that more than once after people pointed out that they weren't just doing this to illegal immigrants (which was already horrible) but to actual asylum seekers too, and when he was called on it he gave the most bare bones rebuking I've ever seen of the trump administration, then went on to try and justify it as needed" but we could improve the conditions," or something similar. I mean, he even went on to try and compare the "at risk" kids Canada separated from potential kidnappers as the same thing as what the US was doing! (I also want to say that there were cases of legal immigrants/citizens having it happen to them too, but I can't find a source on that.)
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Post by semipotentwalrus on Sept 27, 2018 19:15:32 GMT -5
The "camps" in question were Boer War-style concentration camps (the ones that gave rise to the term, not like the ones the Nazis used the term for). Toddler prison is bad, concentration camps are worse.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Sept 27, 2018 19:18:22 GMT -5
The "camps" in question were Boer War-style concentration camps (the ones that gave rise to the term, not like the ones the Nazis used the term for). Toddler prison is bad, concentration camps are worse. Fair enough I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 21:03:07 GMT -5
There were some other bad ones, but no one near whem's level.
Dammit! And, I'll have you know my level is over 9000!
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Sept 27, 2018 21:25:49 GMT -5
They didn't ban people who called for muslims in the UK to be put in camps. Whem's never been close to that. I'm pretty sure they have banned people for saying crazy things like that--temp banned them. Then those posters toned it down or just did not post very often. Whembly was posting in defense of shit almost as evil, but he was doing it every day. He was much more disruptive for the community.
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Sept 27, 2018 22:04:30 GMT -5
There were some other bad ones, but no one near whem's level. Dammit! And, I'll have you know my level is over 9000! You gotta divorce yourself from reality more, I recommend infowars to get you caught up quickly.
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Post by carlo87 on Sept 27, 2018 22:21:23 GMT -5
Whembly was fairly cringeworthy. A lot of the stuff he stated was eyerollingly bad. He's not the only one though, and to say he is is intellectually dishonest.
I'm somewhat certain that certain people advocating for, and being accepting of, violence to political opposition was a large part of why things got closed down, something that Whembly wasn't a part of, and advocated against.
Whembly was definitely known to stir the gak, but he was far from being alone in it. Several others did it quite well with no input from Whembly. They were just as bad with bad-faith arguments. They, like Whembly, definite showed they were wearing ideological blinders when it came time to accept some facts or holes in their arguments.
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Post by A Town Called Malus on Sept 28, 2018 2:02:23 GMT -5
At the end of the politics on dakka lifetime, all Whem ever contributed was nonsensical arguments for others to refute in absolute detail.
I personally enjoyed reading his arguments getting destroyed by posters like Sebster, after which he'd go back to lurking until he thought he would try again with the exact same arguments.
But then, he was also probably the most prominent republican poster. As the decline of the republican party as an organisation with some connection to factual reality happened, many who had in the past supported them (the conservatives or moderates, if you will) stopped as they couldn't continue to defend their actions. That left only the partisans of the far right wing of the Republican party to actually try and argue their side as anyone who hadn't fully committed themselves to supporting the party whatever happened had left.
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