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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 1:32:13 GMT -5
And Manchu was the mod who allowed "feminists are cancer" but would strike down even the lamest generalization about conservatives. I'm sure Ouze remembers. Still salty tbh.
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Post by Draconis Albus on Sept 30, 2018 7:45:31 GMT -5
This thread is great.
Pls don’t ban me on dakka though......(because you can’t prove it’s not a thing, can you!)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 10:42:22 GMT -5
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Sept 30, 2018 10:43:50 GMT -5
I'm still here guys, just been really busy and dealing with big life issues...so my posting here will be light for some time. I'm still waiting for wolfblade to engage on the first set of links he provided that I've already answered before moving on to the next. Pretty sure I did.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 11:11:16 GMT -5
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Sept 30, 2018 12:02:08 GMT -5
Okay... so we're done there? I'll move onto the next when I get a chance. Yes, the gist of your response was more of "but her emails!" and further lies about "democrats started locking kids up first!" We've been over this, Clinton didn't do it, GWB didn't do it, Obama didn't do it, and it started with trump. Here, something you won't read because you've been linked it before (or things similar to it)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 14:24:57 GMT -5
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Sept 30, 2018 14:43:23 GMT -5
Yes the zero tolerance policy started with Trump... did I dispute that? If I did, I was wrong... but, I don't think I did. Maybe you took it as my conflating the zero tolerance policy to what Bush/Obama admin did? If so, I didn't mean to conflate the two. The Zero tolerance policy was strictly a Trump admin policy. See this? www.humanrightsfirst.org/resource/flores-settlement-brief-history-and-next-stepsThat's the flores amendment where the parents where separated from the kids (the kids went from immigration to in order of preference, parents, other adult relatives, or licensed programs willing to accept custody) when parent's detainment exceed a certain point. Kids were still separated. This isn't new, and didn't start with Trump... frankly the whole ordeal is a disgrace... see this from the ACLU: www.aclu.org/news/aclu-obtains-documents-showing-widespread-abuse-child-immigrants-us-custody...from period of 2009-2014. Again, you're conflating what trump has done with what other administrations have done and ignoring the details and trying . The separation of children in the trump admin is literally throwing them in prison, with no tracking or plan to reunite them with their family. It is not placing them with family or relatives, and that's your logical misstep and an example of bad faith argument. Besides, just because something bad happen previously does not justify future acts. As for the video, there were problems with the immigration policy (and border patrol, partially due to the surge under Bush), but they were not on the level of trump, and attempting to say they are is again, dishonest.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 15:06:47 GMT -5
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Sept 30, 2018 15:09:07 GMT -5
Again, you're conflating what trump has done with what other administrations have done and ignoring the details and trying . The separation of children in the trump admin is literally throwing them in prison, with no tracking or plan to reunite them with their family. It is not placing them with family or relatives, and that's your logical misstep and an example of bad faith argument. Besides, just because something bad happen previously does not justify future acts. As for the video, there were problems with the immigration policy (and border patrol, partially due to the surge under Bush), but they were not on the level of trump, and attempting to say they are is again, dishonest. I just said Trump's Zero Policy is his own thing. But, it seems we're talking past each other here, so I'm going to move on. No, I see you said that, but then you go on to try and say what previous administrations have done is the basically the same thing, and just as bad. See, another example of bad faith posting from you.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 15:34:29 GMT -5
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Sept 30, 2018 15:53:48 GMT -5
No, I see you said that, but then you go on to try and say what previous administrations have done is the basically the same thing, and just as bad. See, another example of bad faith posting from you. You are putting words in my mouth. I didn't say "just as bad". That'd bad faith from you. Do you want to drop this and move on? You did not explicitly say they are just as bad, you are however implying it, otherwise you wouldn't bother trying to defend it.
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Post by Least censored on the planet! on Sept 30, 2018 17:30:19 GMT -5
As a resident of Missouri, I’m happy to observe the results of their social, legal, and cultural experiments from a distance. Maybe California/Colorado is onto something... but, there's something to be said about a system that allows the idea to be "tested" first at a state level, rather than having the federal government push it. How on earth does this relate to the electoral college? I'm pretty sure that what the POTUS does impact every state regardless of what the exact procedure for electing him/her was. Did I miss something?
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Post by theauldgrump on Sept 30, 2018 18:53:43 GMT -5
So you are saying that Whemb is bad faith posting on a thread about Whemb's bad faith posting? And people are surprised? The Auld Grump
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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Sept 30, 2018 18:59:08 GMT -5
So you are saying that Whemb is bad faith posting on a thread about Whemb's bad faith posting? And people are surprised? The Auld Grump I think the irony will be lost on whem.
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