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Post by dabbler on Jul 22, 2024 13:00:14 GMT -5
I tend to agree with Bob and Dabbler on this BUT I do see that the Dem base seems pretty energized, and it does draw a stark parallel to the GOP and their aged nominee. I was surprised by how efficient and well-done the transition from Biden to Harris has been handled so far. It looks remarkably competent at this point. Final thought, will the Media now bang-on about Trump's mental fitness and age as much as they did Biden's? After all, he is now the oldest person to run for the Nomination now. Somehow I doubt it. But do they stick with her? Everyone who seems to have endorsed her also endorsed him didn't they, if she blows a debate and what not, what happens then? Another cut and run or just stick with it? That's if Trump gives her a debate.
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Post by Peregrine on Jul 22, 2024 16:16:28 GMT -5
But do they stick with her? Everyone who seems to have endorsed her also endorsed him didn't they, if she blows a debate and what not, what happens then? Another cut and run or just stick with it? That's if Trump gives her a debate. They're absolutely going to stick with her. Switching candidates was justified because (apparently) Biden's health issues were not a one-time thing and there was an obvious alternative they could swap to. Outside of something completely unexpected like Harris having a stroke and suffering major brain damage she doesn't have the long-term health concerns that would prevent her from recovering from a one-time issue like a bad debate and attempting to replace her would be creating a circular firing squad at exactly the wrong time. It's very hard to imagine anything going so badly wrong with her that replacing her looks even remotely appealing.
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Post by easye on Jul 22, 2024 16:27:42 GMT -5
Circular firing squads are the Dems specialty.
I am very interested to hear Biden's remarks on the subject when he addresses the nation later this week.
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Post by semipotentwalrus on Jul 22, 2024 20:40:15 GMT -5
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Post by Peregrine on Jul 22, 2024 21:33:43 GMT -5
Maybe if I suck my favorite pedophile's dick harder he'll finally notice me. No.
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Post by Peregrine on Jul 23, 2024 5:09:37 GMT -5
I expect that Trump will not want any further debates now? Depends on how much Trump's narcissism is dominating his feelings vs. rational strategy, I could see Trump being eager to have another debate because in his mind he trashed Biden so hard he had to drop out and he wants even more to do the same thing to that {racial slur} who dares to run against him. I'm sure Trump's advisors (or babysitters, to be less charitable) are terrified of the idea of a debate against someone whose relative youth is going to highlight Trump's age and declining mental state but I don't think they have much of a choice. Refusing the debate makes him look weak, especially if the media doesn't let him off the hook over it. Imagine a debate where it's Harris vs. an empty podium with constant reminders that Trump was too afraid to show up, or where they invite RFK as a third party candidate and create the appearance that Trump is too weak and irrelevant to even merit a place on the stage. That spectacle would be a death sentence for his campaign.
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Post by skyth on Jul 23, 2024 5:36:57 GMT -5
I know Trump did mention that he wanted to have a debate with FOX moderating it...
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Post by pacific on Jul 23, 2024 8:34:21 GMT -5
What are thoughts within the US about how Harris might represent women with respect to Abortion/Reproductive rights?
Wondered if this is a potential gold-mine for votes here, with potentially 50% of the population.. adding to the number of women that felt they lost out when Clinton lost, and see this as an opportunity to 'put right a wrong'?
Open question to anyone in the US in terms of how Harris is viewed.
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Post by easye on Jul 23, 2024 9:37:53 GMT -5
Honestly, it is a bit hard to tell at the moment. The Dem base is very energized right now, and all seem to be aligning around Harris.
However, Dems are notoriously fickle so we will see how long this rally around the flag effect lasts. WE know that suburban women are pretty important for delivering the most recent wins for Dems, so this could be a good strategy. Harris has had some recent public speeches and remarks that are very pro-choice, pro-IVF, and pro-birth control.
As Peregrine pointed out, the misogynist and racist vote is baked into MAGA so it is also hard to tell how much Harris will energize MAGA to come out and vote for Trump. Historically, when Trump is on the ballot he manages to pull in new voters, so maybe there are still more new voters to pull in for him or he can flip some more white male voters like 2016?
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Post by easye on Jul 23, 2024 9:38:32 GMT -5
I was surprised by how efficient and well-done the transition from Biden to Harris has been handled so far. It looks remarkably competent at this point. jesus christ on a pogo stick this fucker is serious. how much of an npc are u? i get it every other post is a fuckin msm copypasta but u cant be that fuckin braindead. biden could be fuckin dead in his basement and youd parrot this shit anyway. gotta defend that democracy were nobody gets to fuckin vote! now get ur fake uncle tom boomercon repub mod to ban me again so u can copypasta ur fuckin brains out. fuckin censorwhores. what the fuck has the fuckin wasteland of all places come to nanny state stop the mean words bad! I have no idea what you just said. Did your cat walk across your keyboard or something?
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Post by mdgv2 on Jul 23, 2024 10:00:50 GMT -5
I thought she was having a stroke. And I don’t mean strumming the invisible banjo.
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Post by A Town Called Malus on Jul 23, 2024 12:23:34 GMT -5
jesus christ on a pogo stick this fucker is serious. how much of an npc are u? i get it every other post is a fuckin msm copypasta but u cant be that fuckin braindead. biden could be fuckin dead in his basement and youd parrot this shit anyway. gotta defend that democracy were nobody gets to fuckin vote! now get ur fake uncle tom boomercon repub mod to ban me again so u can copypasta ur fuckin brains out. fuckin censorwhores. what the fuck has the fuckin wasteland of all places come to nanny state stop the mean words bad! I have no idea what you just said. Did your cat walk across your keyboard or something? It's particularly funny how they call you an NPC while still attacking Biden, who is no longer running for re-election. They haven't got the updated talking points from their right-wing media yet, so don't know what to pivot to and have no capacity for independent thought to formulate their own arguments based on comprehension of new information.
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Post by adurot on Jul 23, 2024 13:34:40 GMT -5
Or we could stop responding to and feeding the ban evading troll and just report and let Hordini delete their posts.
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Post by easye on Jul 23, 2024 14:56:06 GMT -5
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Post by mdgv2 on Jul 23, 2024 16:15:48 GMT -5
Given the election is in November, guess it kinda had to be?
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