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Post by Emblematic Wolfblade on Dec 13, 2023 14:51:43 GMT -5
I genuinely wonder when women will hit the point of "If this is going to kill me" or "If I'm going to go to jail for murder to save my own life" then "I may as well take some of these lawmakers with me". Not condoning violence, but at some point with draconian laws it's inevitable. Somehow, I suspect that use of the Second Amendment to fight tyranny wouldn't be tolerated. Well, you see, this is different. Guns, as 2A advocates have said many times, are more important than lives, so it'd be ok to rise and up and defend an intentionally misconstrued law.
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Post by Haighus on Dec 13, 2023 16:50:21 GMT -5
I wonder what the OB/GYN and Obstetrics drain is going to be after this? If I was a Doctor, I would do everything I could to leave the state as it is too dangerous to practice my specialty in medicine there. Well, it is certainly going to increase the cost of indemnity insurance to cover the increased legal risk (which may affect all medical practitioners depending on how that is pooled in the US). Obs and gynae is already one of the most litiginous parts of medicine, up there with general practice. To some extent they will be used to that risk as a result, but I suspect it will cause a brain drain to blue states as you say.
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Post by easye on Dec 13, 2023 17:26:51 GMT -5
I am interested to see if a Texas citizen goes after anyone who helps Karen Cox get her abortion using the Texas' abortion bounty law?
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Post by herzlos on Dec 14, 2023 4:17:09 GMT -5
I'm actually curious as to when the bounty will start producing false positives (or witch hunts). How does someone traveling out of state prove they weren't having an abortion?
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Post by skyth on Dec 14, 2023 7:30:38 GMT -5
Well, there's no negative repercussions on filing a suit with the bounty law.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Dec 14, 2023 11:31:29 GMT -5
Given that it is a civil suit, would it work like a class action or is it every person suing for themselves? Given the media attention, a civil suit against her is a cakewalk given evidence.
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Post by easye on Dec 14, 2023 14:10:09 GMT -5
I wonder what the OB/GYN and Obstetrics drain is going to be after this? If I was a Doctor, I would do everything I could to leave the state as it is too dangerous to practice my specialty in medicine there. Well, it is certainly going to increase the cost of indemnity insurance to cover the increased legal risk (which may affect all medical practitioners depending on how that is pooled in the US). Obs and gynae is already one of the most litiginous parts of medicine, up there with general practice. To some extent they will be used to that risk as a result, but I suspect it will cause a brain drain to blue states as you say. Sure, but could a doctor actually get jail time? Insurance can not protect you from that. Edit: For those following at home, here is a nice recap of the case on NPR www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/12/13/1218953788/texas-abortion-ban-supreme-court-kate-cox
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Post by easye on Dec 19, 2023 18:05:40 GMT -5
What the heck is going on here? A woman who had a miscarriage is now charged with abusing a corpse as stricter abortion laws play out nationwidewww.cnn.com/2023/12/19/us/brittany-watts-miscarriage-criminal-charge/index.htmlThe story is really crazy. Basically, since the Hospital wasn't really helping her because they were unsure if they could, she left. Lady miscarried at home and then went about her day. Since she miscarried at home and didn't really do anything special with the miscarried fetus she got arrested.
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Post by skyth on Dec 19, 2023 18:14:45 GMT -5
Important consideration for this case. The woman arrested is black...
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Post by bobtheinquisitor on Dec 19, 2023 19:50:10 GMT -5
Sounds like she could have used some psychiatric help or something. Stillbirths can be traumatic, and some people don’t handle that trauma well.
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Post by easye on Dec 20, 2023 13:14:05 GMT -5
This is America. We deal with psychiatric trauma by criminalizing it.
The same way we deal with most problems.
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Post by skyth on Dec 26, 2023 9:46:35 GMT -5
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Post by Haighus on Jan 30, 2024 14:33:31 GMT -5
Well, it is certainly going to increase the cost of indemnity insurance to cover the increased legal risk (which may affect all medical practitioners depending on how that is pooled in the US). Obs and gynae is already one of the most litiginous parts of medicine, up there with general practice. To some extent they will be used to that risk as a result, but I suspect it will cause a brain drain to blue states as you say. Sure, but could a doctor actually get jail time? Insurance can not protect you from that. Edit: For those following at home, here is a nice recap of the case on NPR www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/12/13/1218953788/texas-abortion-ban-supreme-court-kate-cox...I forgot about criminal liability... :facepalm:
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Post by easye on Feb 9, 2024 11:16:13 GMT -5
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Feb 9, 2024 11:34:55 GMT -5
17th century witch hunters didn't need no science, and Alito doesn't need it now.
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