herzlos
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Post by herzlos on May 4, 2024 7:07:53 GMT -5
I can't see why you'd need to stay married whilst pregnant to get men to remain accountable. Presumably you could finalize the divorce with child support starting from the birth and that'd cover it?
The Dixie Chicks? I can see that being the option for a lot of women who are going to be criminalized or trapped otherwise. Desperate people take desperate measures.
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Post by Peregrine on May 4, 2024 15:57:16 GMT -5
The Dixie Chicks? I can see that being the option for a lot of women who are going to be criminalized or trapped otherwise. Desperate people take desperate measures.
Yep. We know that prior to modern divorce laws there were a lot of husbands who simply disappeared and none of the neighbors had any interest in asking questions. Conservatives seem to forget that when there's no other escape killing the abuser starts to look pretty appealing.
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herzlos
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Post by herzlos on May 6, 2024 2:56:07 GMT -5
It is kind of ironic that a lot of Conservatives think laws will prevent people doing stuff, whilst they'd ignore the laws themselves. Exceptional, even.
I'm not sure banning anything has really worked, especially stuff that allows people safety.
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Post by skyth on May 6, 2024 7:24:08 GMT -5
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Post by Peregrine on May 6, 2024 16:01:01 GMT -5
It is kind of ironic that a lot of Conservatives think laws will prevent people doing stuff, whilst they'd ignore the laws themselves. Exceptional, even. I'm not sure banning anything has really worked, especially stuff that allows people safety.
Conservatives on guns: "no guns allowed" signs and laws do nothing, a bad guy will just ignore the sign/law because they're already intending to commit a worse crime.
Conservatives on trans people: bathroom gender signs and laws are essential for stopping rapists WONT SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!
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herzlos
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Post by herzlos on May 7, 2024 3:49:49 GMT -5
I'm sure it makes sense to someone. That's an odd case and I'm not sure how I feel about it at all. He's completely in the wrong but I'm struggling to figure out exactly why. It sounds like they were only dating 2 months before she became pregnant, and he's either trying to refuse her autonomy (bad) or use this to harass her for breaking up with him (bad). It sounds like more of the latter where it's an attempt at revenge/harassment/public shaming for whatever reason.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on May 7, 2024 11:47:24 GMT -5
It probably boils down to control, which both fit under. You see it with the right wing pundits agitating against (no-fault) divorce, the idea of agency for women is just deeply offensive to at least a subset of them.
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Post by easye on May 9, 2024 9:46:09 GMT -5
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herzlos
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Post by herzlos on May 9, 2024 15:10:14 GMT -5
That's the logical outcome (the doctors avoiding backwards states, not the forced relocation). I'm pretty sure the abortion ban is against the Hippocratic oath, if that's still a thing. Like this bit:
Assuming that also means doing wrong or harm via inaction.
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Post by easye on May 14, 2024 13:30:44 GMT -5
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Post by easye on May 16, 2024 8:39:33 GMT -5
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Post by A Town Called Malus on May 18, 2024 5:48:10 GMT -5
A nice little video about how short term profit focuses can utterly destroy healthcare, as seen in Steward Health Care who took over non-profit hospitals, turned them for profit, sold off the land the hospitals were on to a separate company in exchange for long term rental agreements (where have us UK members seen that scam before?) and saddling the hospitals with those obligations. End result, a ton of wealth for the CEO and board, a ton of debt for the hospitals, and abundant failures in care as a result. youtu.be/GcKV3uGKFV8?si=G0opIZ3HiuGa_2Qr
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