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Post by Peregrine on Nov 6, 2024 3:26:29 GMT -5
Bright side? At least the prospect of him getting a third term seem pretty slim. Though I wouldn’t put anything past his ego and narcissism. The chances are literally zero. The US constitution explicitly limits presidents to two terms and passing an amendment to change it requires an impossibly large majority. Unless a miracle happens and Harris somehow wins Trump is no longer eligible to run. I assume Vance won't move on Trump like some on the internet expect. Why would he need to, you can just get Trump to sign whatever by flattering him a little. Vance's opinion doesn't matter, he's just a meat puppet for his right-wing billionaire owners. And why rule through an unreliable puppet like Trump when you can put a more obedient one into power? |
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Post by Peregrine on Nov 6, 2024 3:33:21 GMT -5
Also, I hope Thomas Matthew Cooks is burning in hell right now for missing that shot. We'd probably have president Harris right now if he had done his job and blown what's left of Trump's brains all over the audience like he so thoroughly deserved.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Nov 6, 2024 3:43:56 GMT -5
Vance's opinion doesn't matter, he's just a meat puppet for his right-wing billionaire owners. And why rule through an unreliable puppet like Trump when you can put a more obedient one into power? Depends on the level of control I assume, if they can get him to smile and wave while signing the shit they put in front of him, why go through all that hassle? |
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Post by Haighus on Nov 6, 2024 3:49:12 GMT -5
As things currently stand, there is a good chance Vance will be president by 2028 anyway.
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Post by herzlos on Nov 6, 2024 3:53:56 GMT -5
Come on Biden, do the right thing and just annihilate Russia before leaving office.
(He won't, of course.)
Or Mar-a-Lago...  Isn't it still likely to be forfeit in that huge libel case? Albeit not before January. |
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Post by herzlos on Nov 6, 2024 4:01:23 GMT -5
First thought this morning was how can America be that stupid?
Sadly, I can kind of see why Trump might win this. The MAGAs seem to genuinely believe all the scaremongering about how much is at stake by electing a marxist communist fascist black woman. They are desperate and voting for their lives, apparently. Harris didn't do anything to reach them, but I'd argue that may be because they are genuinely unreachable. Most of the clips I'd seem of Democrat speeches had been about how bad Trump is, which just puts them further on the defensive. As much as I enjoyed watching her on SNL & and Obama rapping to Enimem, I'm not sure that'll have helped with any votes.
If it does turn out to be lost because of 3rd party votes or low democrat turnout, then shame on them.
I really feel for the women whose husbands find out they voted Harris though. I've already seen one report on social media of a father losing his shit when he found out his daughter didn't vote Trump. At the micro level I can only see it ending badly for some of them, spurred on by the usual vile rhetoric. Maybe some of them will get lucky and have their husbands divorce them.
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Post by Peregrine on Nov 6, 2024 4:03:08 GMT -5
Vance's opinion doesn't matter, he's just a meat puppet for his right-wing billionaire owners. And why rule through an unreliable puppet like Trump when you can put a more obedient one into power? Depends on the level of control I assume, if they can get him to smile and wave while signing the shit they put in front of him, why go through all that hassle? Two reasons: 1) Trump, as a narcissist, thinks that not only is he in charge but that he's entitled to be in charge. It's possible to manipulate him into doing what they want most of the time but it may be difficult to deal with him if he gets stuck on an idea that goes against what they want, whether that's refusing to accept their policy or coming up with his own idiocy like "inject bleach to cure covid" or "nuke the hurricanes" or whatever. Vance OTOH has no illusions about being in charge of the cult. He knows he has no personal following and he has power only as long as he obediently rubber stamps what his owners tell him to do. 2) Trump is the center of attention and that makes him a liability. He's obsessed with keeping himself in the headlines even when the smart and ruthless thing would be to shut up and quietly pass all the terrifying stuff. And without Trump as a target to rally against would the democrats be able to keep even the momentum they currently have? Or would a lot of people say "mission accomplished, Trump is gone" and go back to watching their sports or celebrity gossip or whatever? Now, I don't know for sure that they'll replace him. But I definitely see the incentive to do so, and whichever way it goes Vance's opinion on the subject isn't going to matter one bit.
First thought this morning was how can America be that stupid? Racism, sexism, a failing public education system, and the media relentlessly sanewashing Trump instead of accurately describing his lunacy. |
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Post by herzlos on Nov 6, 2024 4:03:19 GMT -5
As things currently stand, there is a good chance Vance will be president by 2028 anyway.
I'm not sure I can see Trump making a full 4 year term. Though that thing about him getting RFK Jnr to do all the actual work didn't sound like that bad an idea compared to him doing it himself.
I always thought Trumps plan was to try and get one of his kids to take over as President in 2028, but I can't say I've heard much about his family since the election accounting felony charges.
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Post by Haighus on Nov 6, 2024 4:23:31 GMT -5
I suspect the Republicans will spend the next 4 years focussing on rigging the system for a post-Trump era, so that they don't need to be popular to win.
Meanwhile there will be lots of Democrat hand wringing, followed by them identifying the wrong root cause and lurching further to the right.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Nov 6, 2024 5:04:16 GMT -5
I assume one of the 'lessons' that the Dems will leaarn from this is to stop running a woman as the candidate.
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Post by Peregrine on Nov 6, 2024 5:24:14 GMT -5
I assume one of the 'lessons' that the Dems will leaarn from this is to stop running a woman as the candidate. The sad thing is I don't know they'd be wrong to do it, we're just that misogynist. |
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Post by redchimera on Nov 6, 2024 5:30:51 GMT -5
It's just so depressing. Not only for what the next 4 years are going to be like (although I hope cooler heads in the lower ranks can convince their superiors to mollify some of Trumps crazier ideas), but what will happen to American politics and society in the years after.
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Nov 6, 2024 5:33:17 GMT -5
I assume one of the 'lessons' that the Dems will leaarn from this is to stop running a woman as the candidate. The sad thing is I don't know they'd be wrong to do it, we're just that misogynist. I know, but it's a sad thing... |
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Post by Disciple of Fate on Nov 6, 2024 5:35:28 GMT -5
It's just so depressing. Not only for what the next 4 years are going to be like (although I hope cooler heads in the lower ranks can convince their superiors to mollify some of Trumps crazier ideas), but what will happen to American politics and society in the years after. That's why the plan is to purge those cooler heads with Project 2025. |
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Post by crispy78 on Nov 6, 2024 5:44:00 GMT -5
It's just so depressing. Not only for what the next 4 years are going to be like (although I hope cooler heads in the lower ranks can convince their superiors to mollify some of Trumps crazier ideas), but what will happen to American politics and society in the years after. It sounds like Trump has Elon Musk lined up to do to the US government what he already did to Twitter. There will be no checks or balances, no regulations, big business will just be able to do whatever the fuck it wants. |
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